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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote abstractdream Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 02:45
Originally posted by Han Dynasty Han Dynasty wrote:

Edit: may all the grammar nazis weep!

/me weeps ;D

Edited by abstractdream - 21 Jun 2015 at 02:51
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Mak Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 03:14
Twilights, 

You bring up some distressing points about this war in the BL. However, as a member of Illyriad that loves addressing the proverbial "elephant in the room". I have to inquire. Are you saying that you and the V-Crows are willing to break sieges that are beyond land claims to "assist" Stomp members? Or are you merely making a personal declaration of outrage. Because it seems like you are leaning towards the former.






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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twilights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 11:32
i am speaking for a group within our game community, razing and seiging outside of land claims and buffer areas is just harmful to our game..seige is out of whack with the damage it does compare to other functions, other forms of military and dip functions can diminish the capability of a city to perform war functions, and the devs must wake up and realize the overpowering siege function is a factor to the playing base not being larger....we need more active players..we dont need to force them from the game. vcrow leadership speaks for vcrow but members are free to speak for themselves.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Corwin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 11:33
I don't speak for VCrow but I do not agree with Twilights, and I'm pretty sure her words are not representing VCrows standing in any way. Personally I try to ignore all land claims because I think most of them are no more then written words on a forum or alliancepage. I very much doubt any other alliance then SIN can really step up and kick players out of their claimed lands. I don't agree with any land claims but I wouldn't fight a war for it, until someone says I have to move because they claimed the land where my towns are. 

As for sieging towns outisde their claim; it's completely logical people attack players that attack them, no matter if they are in claimed land. I really don't understand why someone would expect they can attack an alliance and then complain they get incoming attacks back.
And why twilights says razing is ruining the game is also above my understanding. If you don't want to lose cities then just stay out of wars. That isn't very hard to accomplish in this game, and even when you're in a war very few players lose more then a few towns. If you get driven from the game by that you might reconsider playing a game with war aspects in it. If you can't stand losing then don't play games that involve competition.

This is my personal view on the subject and does not represent VCrows.   
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote twilights Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 11:37
sorry...to clarify outside your alliances land claim...thus i am saying both sides are guilty
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Originally posted by ajqtrz ajqtrz wrote:

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I'm doing stuff on the Illyriad Post myself.  Is admitting that an act of bravery?  Gee, never thought of myself as courageous.

Is that an admittance to forum account sharing? If it is, you are in trouble.

FTR, I have posed the question of having more forum accounts than player accounts versus ToS to Rikoo. He is looking into this.

EDIT: it is obvious that 'illyriadpost' is a Stomp member, who is trying to spin his/her view about what is a silly war to begin with. To him/her I say to just declare if you want to fight, and do not invent silly excuses.


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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Alcie Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 15:14
Originally posted by Captain Kindly Captain Kindly wrote:

Originally posted by ajqtrz ajqtrz wrote:


CK
I'm doing stuff on the Illyriad Post myself.  Is admitting that an act of bravery?  Gee, never thought of myself as courageous.


Is that an admittance to forum account sharing? If it is, you are in trouble.




One of illyriadpost's first posts said 'Please send your news to illyriadpost@gmail.com'.   Although I don't know for sure, this sounds to me like only one person has the account login info, but others (maybe potentially anyone) asks that one person to post stuff. People often post for others on the forum (sometimes because they have no forum account themselves). I see no problem with this--not that different than asking someone in-game to do something for you.

As for having multiple forum accounts.. interesting question. Since they don't have to be linked to the game accounts in any way at all, I see no reason why you couldn't have more than 1 (or even more than 2) from reading the terms of service or what you click to register a forum account. Although personally I prefer forum posts linked to real players so that I get some context. If there are 'extra' forums-specific terms of service, they should make it very clear in both the rules section and on the thing you agree with when you register for the forums.   

This is all very off-topic.. but almost everything in this thread is sort of off topic since 'why don't we talk about war' turned into people talking about war xD If the devs have clarification on this issue, a new thread (as well as maybe updates to the rules section wording) would be more useful than responding here.

Personally I wish the forum accounts were part of the game accounts so that this wouldn't be an issue to start with... A lot of people avoid getting a forum account because having to get a second different illy account seems weird and inconvenient.

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Yeah, I'd support a mandate that forum accounts be linked to and share names with active player accounts too. However, the rules don't currently say anything about it, so there's no reason to get accusatory over it.  (And Illyriad Post gets a thumbs up in my view just because I generally support anything that lets people involve themselves more in the game.)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote GM Rikoo Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2015 at 16:02
Originally posted by Aurordan Aurordan wrote:

Yeah, I'd support a mandate that forum accounts be linked to and share names with active player accounts too. However, the rules don't currently say anything about it, so there's no reason to get accusatory over it.  (And Illyriad Post gets a thumbs up in my view just because I generally support anything that lets people involve themselves more in the game.)

Get back on topic, please. 

We will make a post about this if you want, but bear in mind that there are many reasons we keep them separate. 

If you do not hear back from me, nothing has changed. If you see a post that you think is breaking the rules, report it.

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