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You call it spinning, I call it a humorous spoof of propaganda websites.

Don't call people cowards if you can't appreciate their sense of humour.
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Small fast dispatch.

https://illyriadpost.wordpress.com/2015/06/20/freedom-war-dispatch-1-2/

Usually we are not honouring poisonous questions and comments, however, just to state it once, none of illyriadpost writers are participating in the war, nor would be able to do it. Practice of land-grabbing is most unjust to those yielding low power and therefore having no real means to respond in diplomatic or military fashion, while those having the power (except few fighting idealists) are still only looking for themselves and trying to avoid standing up for everyone.

Just to be clear, none of us are members of currently fighting alliances too.
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Originally posted by Spheniscidae Spheniscidae wrote:

You call it spinning, I call it a humorous spoof of propaganda websites.

Don't call people cowards if you can't appreciate their sense of humour.
I'm only a lowly Imperialist but I believe the "coward" comment was directed at the fact the illyriadpost account is not indicating it's in-game connection beyond a general disregard for the pro-claim crowd.

BTW, I do find it comical.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote abstractdream Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 20 Jun 2015 at 12:54
Originally posted by illyriadpost illyriadpost wrote:

Practice of land-grabbing is most unjust to those yielding low power
It should be noted that several of the Imperialist pigs in TVM are currently "yielding low power." They and those members yielding slightly more power benefit equally from our claim.

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I'm doing stuff on the Illyriad Post myself.  Is admitting that an act of bravery?  Gee, never thought of myself as courageous.

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You are certainly true that journalism has taken a bit of a turn toward propaganda over the last few years...or decades to be sure.  However, the ideal of neutrality is still alive and well and sometimes, in spite of ones' inclinations, what is observed is actually reported.  The problem is not so much what is observed as what is chosen to put in and leave out.  It is there that the bias's of the reporter appear.  But what do we expect when reporters are just telling "stories?" 

Anyway, the quality of journalism should make the effort either appreciated and read, or ignored.  I'm just wondering if we can get enough quality journalist types to make it work.

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i for one am very disappointed in several of the land claim members who are laying siege, and razing cities outside of their land claim areas! these actions seem to demean the concept of the current land claims as simpely another typical old fashion and out of date unannounce land claims that are in existence but not vocally broadcast to the other members of the game...i hate to say it but raing players for no strategic reason is nothing different than a 20 city accounts sending 700k siege...i urge all to just siege within their land claims areas and use all other war and dip function to diminish their enemies so they are not capable of war! i still support land cliams but until the devs change the out of whack function of siege to ruin players easily and force them from the game, i will look poorly upon any group that sieges and razes out of their land claim areas and unfortunely might encourage myself and others to take action against any group that is using a function to ruin others game and force them out...pleas use the other functions....thank you!
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Originally posted by twilights twilights wrote:

i for one am very disappointed in several of the land claim members who are laying siege, and razing cities outside of their land claim areas! these actions seem to demean the concept of the current land claims as simpely another typical old fashion and out of date unannounce land claims that are in existence but not vocally broadcast to the other members of the game...i hate to say it but raing players for no strategic reason is nothing different than a 20 city accounts sending 700k siege...i urge all to just siege within their land claims areas and use all other war and dip function to diminish their enemies so they are not capable of war! i still support land cliams but until the devs change the out of whack function of siege to ruin players easily and force them from the game, i will look poorly upon any group that sieges and razes out of their land claim areas and unfortunely might encourage myself and others to take action against any group that is using a function to ruin others game and force them out...pleas use the other functions....thank you!

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are you saying that the land claiming alliances should not attack cities that could be used against them while they are at war with the owner of that city?  

that sounds silly and counterproductive to me.  and if you do agree with that then why are the so called "freedom fighters" not attacking a single city that is inside of any land claim?  i mean fair is fair if the land claiming alliances cant fight outside of a land claim then the anti-land claiming alliances shouldn't be able to either.

remember this war was initiated by STOMPS declaring war on T-SC and attacking a T-SC city that was nowhere near the T-SC land claim and scheduled to move.  STOMPS reason for declaring war was because T-SC did not reply to an IGM that he sent us.  To paraphrase his IGM since i cannot post it here directly it basically said "hey, i am going to declare war and attack you because i don't like the fact you made a land claim" personally i see no reason to reply to that message instead we responded by informing all other land claiming alliances about the IGM, started building troops, and found spots in other alliances for our junior members to go to during the war.

P.S. if anyone would like a copy of his original IGMs, then just IGM me and i will forward them to you.
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totally agree with u, stomp is the aggressor but as a group that promotes land claim for self, which i agree, and to aggressively siege outside that area and raze when your group could easily diminish those cities so they have no military capacity i wonder of what your land claim really is...i personally dont agree with raze as it encourage players to quit...i do like the idea of buffer areas in which siege and raze is allowed but in free areas i disagree with siege function on both sides and really look down upon those that raze outside their claim areas...if that means i disagree with those using siege that have no land claims...totally true...seige and raze ruins game play, as we have seen in the past...i just wonder when the devs wake up and make that function less damaging and allow an escape clause so the game gains players and makes war play more enjoyable and less stressful....but u make ur bed, u lay in it...u use use dip and other attack functions to achieve objectives outside ur land claim areas..seige and raze is just plain bullying
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Originally posted by twilights twilights wrote:

totally agree with u, stomp is the aggressor but as a group that promotes land claim for self, which i agree, and to aggressively siege outside that area and raze when your group could easily diminish those cities so they have no military capacity i wonder of what your land claim really is.

I personally dont agree with raze as it encourage players to quit...i do like the idea of buffer areas in which siege and raze is allowed but in free areas i disagree with siege function on both sides and really look down upon those that raze outside their claim areas...if that means i disagree with those using siege that have no land claims...totally true...seige and raze ruins game play, as we have seen in the past.

I just wonder when the devs wake up and make that function less damaging and allow an escape clause so the game gains players and makes war play more enjoyable and less stressful....but u make ur bed, u lay in it...u use use dip and other attack functions to achieve objectives outside ur land claim areas..seige and raze is just plain bullying

It is very possible to dodge sieges, and I expect, if this war crosses heavy into Elgea, you will see both sides exo-dodging with ease.

No one in the coalition wants nothing more than the freedom to develop, that freedom, that was simply not possible in Elgea. That, is being prevented by Stomps.

Its absurd to even suggest that alliances with land claims should not siege those that are attacking them if their cities are not within the land claim itself. What are they supposed to do, play defense until they lose?

Forcing people to play farmville is as damaging to the game as outright chaos for the sake of chaos. Find the balance, instead of you and others trying to go 'oh its hurting the game, but our behavior have not hurt the game at all for the last couple years'.

Edit: may all the grammar nazis weep!



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