why isnt there talk of the war here

Players doesn't want to talk about war because nobody enters war without some kind of personal agenda to gain something useful for themselves.

Well looks like RE and Trivium joined in the fight, I guess SIN and T-O couldn't handle a 6 on 1 fight.

The reason for this war is stated on Stomps alliance profile. It´s quite simple and direct.
Stomp has acted in an open way with it´s opponent T-SC, giving fair warning of Stomp´s intent to challenge T-SC´s land claim.
T-SC ignored our igms and hence Stomp declared war and sent it´s siege.
At the time this was just my personal campaign to fight land claims. T-O council member Figjam contacted me to understand the situation and try to reach terms. I offered peace if T-SC withdrew their land claim for which Figjam told me that that was unlikely. He asked me to guarantee him that it was just me and my other account attacking to which I told him yes, and he said that T-O would not get involved.
The day of the siege, a one player alliance (Stomp) was attacked by T-O, which is fine, I believed in Figjam´s word that they would not get involved but who knows if other discussions within T-O made them change their mind. I was ok with that, so I declared war on T-O as well, and later saw yellow reinforcements going to the town I was sieging.
At this point, it was at least 3 alliances against 1 player.
After the siege was over, which I thought to be a victory for all parties involved, I was able to reduce the pop of the town to meet the requirement of either capture or raze. I knew very well that the town was reinforced and that I would not be able to capture or raze, but I sent it anyways, with the satisfaction that I had accomplish withstanding the 90 plus attacks on my siege. I consider it a win for T-O and T-SC as they were able to defend their town.
After the siege, seeing that I was up against 3 alliances, speaking with a friend in Shark I asked him if he was willing to join the fight and at the same time trying to keep Shark out of it, since other members also wanted to join Stomp. He agreed and joined. A couple of smaller players asked to join as well, I did not know them at the time, but welcomed them to Stomp.
Still lacking the numbers to fight T-SC with the help of T-O, I felt a little bit more confident with the players that Stomp picked up. Unfortunately, 6 alliances have declared war on Stomp and no longer can we attempt to fight alliances with land claims, one at a time.
So that´s where we are at the moment. Recruiting more members that believe in our cause. The war doesn´t have to be ugly, I will continue to fight and try to be as fair as possible with the opposition, even though the same courtesy has not been extended in our direction.

Pico wrote: Stomp has acted in an open way with it´s opponent T-SC, giving fair warning of Stomp´s intent to challenge T-SC´s land claim. T-SC ignored our igms and hence Stomp declared war and sent it´s siege.

am i understanding correctly that Stomp declared war and sieged a T-SC city not in response to a "game action" (that is, an action on the map) by T-SC, but rather in response to their posting a land claim on the forum? that would seem to have relevance to another active thread on this forum.

Edited by Angrim - 17 Jun 2015 at 22:22

Hey Jejune,

If you refer to the Release Notes & Stats page:
http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/HeraldReleaseNotes

You can see that there are currently 1,388 alliances and 4,256 alliance members.

You have stated that "SIN disagrees with Stomps' position that alliance land claims are not representative of Illyriad, as currently 10 different BL alliances are participating in the alliance land claim initiative, representing over 327 active player accounts. We feel that the initiative is representative of BL gameplay..."

10 alliances in BL with land claims doesn´t even come to 2% of all the alliances in the game, neither do the 327 active player accounts.

1% of 1,388= 13.8 alliances, let´s say 14, if my math is correct! :P

Point is, land claims are far from being considered representative of the illy community. I haven´t counted how many alliances have towns in BL, i´m sure it´s more 20, hence you can´t say 10 alliances in BL represent the interest of BL, and furthermore, you can´t separate Elgea and BL, the game consist of both, the only reason you try to impose land claims it´s because you are the biggest alliance in BL. But i do appreciate your comment! and I aslo respect your opinion, just dont agree with it, just as you dont agree with mine.

With regards to taking alliances one at a time, it´s somewhat complicated for 1 player to take on 10 alliances, and as i´ve stated before, I have tried to be upfront with all my opposition, establishing dialogue, trying to come to terms, and a war declaration as a last resort. This is the case with Stark, I contacted Phoenixfire, we spoke, he told me he would consider withdrawing the land claim and talking to his members about it, he came back letting me know that they will uphold their land claim and I thanked him and told him that we will meet on the battle ground eventually, that I would give him a heads up before declaring war. Just to be fair. It´s also a bit complicated since Stark is so small, I didn´t feel comfortable attacking him, and that´s what I told him, that I would find somebody his size to make it a fair fight, which is why I recruited Agalloch, he has the same pop as Phoenixfire.

Therefore my friend, Sin ganging up on a small player such as Agalloch, doesn´t make Sin look too good. And on a side note, Sin has been critizing coalitions and it seems weird to me that Sin would take part in what they have been critizing all this time. 4 Alliances declaring war at the same time, doesn´t look good for Sin´s coalition, but that´s just my take, which of course you will not agree with.