You can have fun in military terms by participating in tourneys, where you can show your strengh in a sportive event, and gain prizes.
Voluntarly be deleting other's accounts (because razing the cities of other players means to delete their accounts) is only funny for one side.
Drejan wrote:
...you are calling warmongers people who have never sieged anyone.......please....
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Now that pill is hard to shallow. H? indeed took a great part in the institution of peace over Illy, and from the start, by crushing White and Black (H? and White where already the 2 most powerful alliances in the first month of the game). White only wanted to bring utter chaos to Illyriad from its start... It's quite easy to be less warmongering than them (self-note). Even if this account deletion fest was ""justified"", H? already deleted a good amount of accounts. Not to mention H? leaders pursued their retaliations against those who did something during the war or had a link with White... Did all the players deleted by H? really deserved it? I doubt, as many didnt know White's leadership's true personality, and just followed orders.
Only because of this war and retaliations i think we can estimate accounts 100% deleted by H? (leaving a 0 pop capitale per account) around 30-40, and around 100 and 150 if we count those leaving cause of boredom, after they lost some or most of their cities in war or retaliations.
Then there were the Valar war, where H? ""justified"" them as well. It's ok, but it's also some more accounts deletion. H? are not the best ranked in terms of Sieges stats, or raze/capture attempts, but it's important to point out that a great part of the towns they razed/captured, belonged to active players, contrary to most of the top siegers we can see, who quite only razed/captured inactive cities.
For White and Valar (who was 2nd rank when war started), even if we can strongly suppose H? had personal interests to defend, they at the same time promoted peace, as Valar and mostly White had a quite agressive leadership.
I hardly can compare White or the former Valar with the current VIC or Consone, who are seeking to develop friendship and to have fun during tourneys. The most agressive player i've seen in VIC, and who for exemple thieved his own mates cause of different points of views, and harrassed and insulted others for the exact same reason, now sees fit in H? (and participated in the "territorial incidents" VIC had with H? after the creation of Consone)
In the current context, i note the apparent efforts from H? to prepare the ground for the today's war:
- not accepting Consone from it's birth while they came in peace, followed by hostile behaviours and more or less subtle insults on the forum or in game. And closed doors to discussion or diplomacy.
- constantly initiating territorial incidents with VIC, certainly to test their reactions: For exemple: attempts to relocate by force (sov 5/relocate tactic) some H? cities ridiculously close to VIC's ones.
- this point is only my own point of view, but i suspect H? leaders to have advised RHY to launch the first sieges against Absa... everyone was quite surprised of RHY's reaction: Deimos (RHY) was claiming a mine far from him, in the middle of Skb, and not respecting the rules of his own alliance by claiming specifically on the 2 sq range of 2 Skb members. And while Deimos obviously did wrong and while Absa and Skb re-opened negociations after first one failed, they sent sieges? Nobody knew RHY were so agressive, it was a surprise. When we add the suspisciously hiden bonds between RHY and H? into that, my archaic mind directly suspects an agreement RHY/H? to start those sieges against Absa, which would permit to push Consone into action, and then easily declare war, while Consone lost already many troops in the tourney (i note that they did the same for Valar, they waited the middle of the tourney, while saving their troops, to declare the war).
All that to say that im not sure if H? changed or if we now are seeing a part of the bottom of the iceberg, but for me, H? leaders are nowadays acting beyond their bond to maintain peace, as being the leading alliance. I am a bit disapointed of what i see today of this leading alliance, as for me, it shelters many Veterans who i hold in high respect, and who did a lot for this game.
I know i melt actual facts with some personal feelings, but i tried to give a balanced thought. This message is for the players external to this story, and who may want to read a more serious and a bit less biased comment than what this forum currently offers.
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