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Points: 924 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 05:41
Originally posted by The Duke The Duke wrote:

Odd how H? continues to forget to mention RHY were suppose to withdraw troops from the mine and didnt which led to the attack. Also last i checked H? + RHY + NC + DLords( who even tho they havent declared has always been H? sister) equal more than 12million. Or maybe my maths off and i forgot to carry the zero 


Nah. Youre right 20.5mil.
Ya got me (though considering NOONE outside of H? is ACTUALLY at WAR then maybe NOT)

Wait a sec...Frak! that actually doesnt change my point one bit.

And you were so close to scoring brownie points, averting the statement and misdirecting the argument by focusing on semantics.....

Awwww!


Edited by Llyorn Of Jaensch - 14 Oct 2012 at 05:42
"ouch...best of luck."
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Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by The Duke The Duke wrote:

Odd how H? continues to forget to mention RHY were suppose to withdraw troops from the mine and didnt which led to the attack. Also last i checked H? + RHY + NC + DLords( who even tho they havent declared has always been H? sister) equal more than 12million. Or maybe my maths off and i forgot to carry the zero 


Nah. Youre right 20.5mil.
Ya got me (though considering NOONE outside of H? is ACTUALLY at WAR then maybe NOT)

Wait a sec...Frak! that actually doesnt change my point one bit.

And you were so close to scoring brownie points, averting the statement and misdirecting the argument by focusing on semantics.....

Awwww!
At last count many ppl are at war outside of H? I know ill miss some here but theres Vic, EE, Druids, Frost, Rhy, roads, and maybe more- as you can imagine its hard to keep up with all the war going around. 
On a side note I know there was a semantics quote by HM i'd love to throw in here but its 2 am here and i cant remmy it


Edited by The Duke - 14 Oct 2012 at 05:55
"Our generation has had no Great Depression, no Great War. Our war is spiritual. Our depression is our lives."
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Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:


Wait a sec...Frak! that actually doesnt change my point one bit.
"ouch...best of luck."
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Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:


Wait a sec...Frak! that actually doesnt change my point one bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9kpTvm6CYA
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Wow Salarius, you had a wonderful sandbox allegory going that I was really enjoying, until you completely misrepresented it and turned it into an excessively subjective vent.

Your basic premise of the sandbox was pretty accurate. Illyriad as a whole is in many respects not a game but an open world where people may choose their own goals and paths to achieving them. And to create the "game," you need the control, and hence the power, to initiate and enforce that game.

The error you made was assuming H? owns the sandbox. They own a portion of the sandbox. As long as your own game does not cross into their edge of the box, you're fine. The trouble being that the lines drawn in the sandbox are completely grey.

And the main problem, the reason for ALL of this conflict, is (drum roll please): The devs failed to give us the tools to create our own games.

Okay, that might be an exaggeration. But think about it: what kinds of games can you play in Illy outside of "Fight for the Sandbox?" The combat system outside of siege is too restrictive and simplified to have any true entertainment value. Oh, fight NPCs? Click square, send army, get report. Tournaments? A little more challenging and strategic, but still comprised of throwing armies at a square and praying you hold it. Trade is immensely fun, except that everything in the economy exists for the sole purpose of preparing for combat, unless you enjoy hording gold.

Don't blame H? for the fact that the game mechanics simply scream for boredom-induced metagaming and unjust war.
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Points: 924 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 06:48
Originally posted by The Duke The Duke wrote:

Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:


Wait a sec...Frak! that actually doesnt change my point one bit.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9kpTvm6CYA


One of my favs as well.


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I've just been confused by this whole mess as it's unfolded. I have considered myself a supporter of the way H? members have handled themselves and enjoyed reading their version of Elgea's history as a new player. I have no ties to either of the groups involved and yet find the whole turn of events disturbing. 

The rare resources have done exactly as the DEVs had planned by stirring up contention among the players. I don't mind land claims and the disputation of land claims. What I dislike is the destruction of people's villages that represent the entirety of what they have built in the game. Of all the escalations that don't make sense to me though is the one that really stands out as odd. This is where an ally/confed answers the call for help to break a siege and is accused of unprovoked aggression for it. No retaliatory sieges. No wave of strikes on cities. Just defensive strikes against armies laying waste to friends and neighbors.

I am sure my understanding of the matter is flawed and incomplete as my only awareness of the matter is through GC and the Forums, neither of which is famous for dependability. In this I would like more clarity on the matter, but realize none will likely be forthcoming.

That is my main confusion in this whole earthshaking matter. It seems that this war is happening because some parties want a war. To me that seems the scenario that makes the most sense. If not, none of the things leading up to where we are today would have sparked the fires of war. I hope matters are resolved peacefully as the destruction of either side will be a loss to all who virtually cohabit Elgea.

These are my thoughts alone and do not represent my alliance or confederation. 


Edited by Gon - 14 Oct 2012 at 14:02
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Aarrrr!  I associate maturity with senility.  
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Originally posted by PirateKing PirateKing wrote:

Aarrrr!  I associate maturity with senility.  


/me has faculties firmly in place.
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I feel we have a shortage of H? threads.

Perhaps we could make 2 more.. just to keep things fresh maybe one where we accuse H? of being the dark overlords of all of time and space... Just picture it... Mule in his blue police box  Shocked.  Then a 2nd one to just mix it up where we toss out some propaganda that H? clubs baby seals and eats babies I am sure Rill may approve of making said thread.

Though I am a little hungry atm and might go find me a seal Big smile us orcs do need to eat :D

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