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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2010 at 00:42
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

TBH I'm disappointed.  When I heard you were joining I was pretty happy to have what I thought would be some decent competition, unfortunately so far it's been pretty sad, from your pathetic and transparent attempts at mud slinging to the rather pedestrian tactics on the battle field.

I struggle to find a single public utterance of yours which isn't shot through with fabrication. What's interesting is that you lie when:

a) You don't need to
b) It's easy to prove you're lying.

My only conclusion is that you're busy in Eve or elsewhere, I hope that is the case because if this is your "A" game it's pretty bad.  As for the proof of yet another lie - here's a battle report from one of your members attacks on one of ours. The interesting thing here is that the bulk of the defense army was mine helping to defend my members against your attacks with my own units:

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Sent:    29APR10 09:24
Subject:    Victorious defense by Createure's forces at City under attack by Boomer's forces from Callisto
Two opposing forces clash against each other.

Attacking up a small hill offers little advantage, or penalty, to the attacking force.

Defences with a height advantage, however small, are better than nothing.
Attackers:    Unit:    Quantity:    Casualties:    Survivors:
Commander: HoJoon    Archer    1    Damaged for 50, 0 health remains.
Troops:    Militiamen    37    37    0
Troops:    Swordsmen    15    15    0
Troops:    Archers    89    89    0


And no - I'm not posting the rest of the report to show how many defending units there were.

Please don't come back until you have something that isn't complete bullsh$t to say.

We launch on average 10-15 succesfull attacks on H? cities every single day, and this is the finest example of defence you can show?

A force that can only be described as a minor farming force being defeated?

I'd post some succesfull attacks but I know you have douzens of examples on your own forums, along with your members cringing.

But I take it you've saved Creature then, he won't be farmed tomorrow? and again the next day? he hasn't been farmed day in and day out?

My A game is bad? My tactics are pedestrian? Your tactics so far has been to be defeated day in and day out, all your assaults have been failed, where nearly all of ours succeed.

We have de-leveld multiple buildings using siege engines over several H? towns, where as we have suffered no losses from any attacks sent by H? what so ever.

You remind me of the iraqi information minister or Emperor Nero.

"Dear H? members, we are defeating the vile White forces! We have yet to succeed in a *single* attack this is true, but last night we made a succesfull defence of a VAST invading horde of a couple of tier 1 soldiers, and while it is true that another 14 attacks were not defended on that day, we feel we have truly bloodied their nose with this".

Next I imagine you'll send a proclamation that the boys will be home by christmas.

Action backs up my words, you huddle together, turtle up, ignore your members, don't lead, you have multiple recruiters out recruiting as many players as you possibly can in race to become the single largest entity this game will ever see, and so dominate it completely.

White does not turtle up, in White we lead our members, in White we are at war with the single largest alliance in this game, for the good of this game.

I'm sorry if you don't approve of my brand of tactics and strategy, I guess we have differing opinions here.

I feel a good strategy is to ensure the success and defence of my members, to ensure that while they pillage the enemy they remain safe.

This differs somewhat from your core strategy of ignoring 90% of your members while you focus on building up and protecting your ten or so directors, letting them be farmed and burned while recruiting new players, fresh from having joined and throwing them to slaughter without any instruction help or protection.

All in all, I am quite confident in my strategy, and I think i'll take my lessons in warfare from someone who isn't currently losing a douzen battles a day.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2010 at 03:04
To be honest I only wrote that story cos I was bored and it amused me. I wouldn't read too much political message into it.

I don't think that report was posted as an attempt at showing some kind of epic win though... it was just evidence against the generalisation of yours above, that H? leadership doesn't give a fig about their smaller players.

And the other main lie of yours above: 'that I shouldn't have joined H? so that White would leave me alone.' The reason I joined H? in the first place was because White was already attacking me unprovoked and my own alliance was too small to do anything about it.

But please continue anyways Diablito... I still enjoy your posts despite their frequent fallacy. Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2010 at 03:28
We've never attacked any alliance unprovoked, perhaps you should try joining an alliance that doesn't make enemies so frequently.

If not, well, deal with the consequences.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2010 at 05:19
Originally posted by Diablito Diablito wrote:



<snip> ...foaming at the mouth diatribe... </snip>



More tears (they fuel me), more lies, more attempted mudslinging.

<yawn>

Someone wake me when something interesting is said.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 May 2010 at 16:30
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Originally posted by Diablito Diablito wrote:



<snip> ...foaming at the mouth diatribe... </snip>



More tears (they fuel me), more lies, more attempted mudslinging.

<yawn>

Someone wake me when something interesting is said.

/me wonders if the killer poodle had his rabies shot this year, because he seems to be the only one "foaming at the mouth" here...

Yeah, most of guildies are from Eve University - if your not familiar with it, it's not only the *largest* n00b assisting group in games *ever*, it is also the longest lived "n00b" assisting group in gaming ever (just over six years straight...) ((yeah, we really hate them dam n00bs....)).ClapClapClap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2010 at 02:35
Originally posted by Gila Gila wrote:


/me wonders if the killer poodle had his rabies shot this year, because he seems to be the only one "foaming at the mouth" here...

Yeah, most of guildies are from Eve University - if your not familiar with it, it's not only the *largest* n00b assisting group in games *ever*, it is also the longest lived "n00b" assisting group in gaming ever (just over six years straight...) ((yeah, we really hate them dam n00bs....)).ClapClapClap


Somewhat better attempt at damage control only three major holes:

1) White's real policy (farm anyone you like who is not in an alliance) already came out in this thread.
2) Harmless's leaders also have a long history of helping noobs in online games.
3) The stated purpose of White is somewhat different to your normal Ivy League ideals:

Originally posted by Jonny 101 Jonny 101 wrote:


This is an opportunity for you to learn more about the dark side of eve and power politics, to get to know new eve-players and gain access to social circles in eve via illyriad you never thought possible. That said, this is not for the faint of heart. I don't believe in this mercy bullsh*t, nor do I believe in "fair play", playing with me will give you front row seats to a lecture on meta-gaming and cruel and unusual tactics.

If you want to learn these to use them yourself in the future, or merely learn how to spot and avoid them, I don't care, this is the education you'll be getting.

Make no mistake, if you come play with me, you will be the bad guy...you'll also be the rich, powerful guy who wins, because daddy don't play for the losing side.

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1) White's real policy (farm anyone you like who is not in an alliance) already came out in this thread.
2) Harmless's leaders also have a long history of helping noobs in online games.
3) The stated purpose of White is somewhat different to your normal Ivy League ideals:



1. Any player of white may deal however he wishes to a neutral player as there is no formal policy, I know not of a single case where a neutral player has been farmed by us without him/her striking the first blow

2. Harmless has a history of completely dominating games, see Inselkampf where you yourself have stated your alliance has more score than the ENTIRE rest of the game, and the game is now completely stagnant and without action...I wonder what could possibly have caused this.
3. The stated purpose of White is chaos and war, not domination, not oppression, but chaos and war, and of course, we aim to be on the winning side of any war...but if we were to dominate...where would the war go?

KP, you accuse me of bluster, yet I see no action from you, I see nothing but forum bluster. All you do ingame is turtle, turtle up, I also find backing in my statement that your alliance exists to boost your top ten chaps, in that not ONE of your newbies has been invited into your cluster.

Nor do you inform them of the actions of the alliance, not to mention your habit of distorting facts and outright lying to them.

I would give examples, but while you are many things I do not think you a complete idiot, and you and I both know several examples of what I am talking about, if your members choose to remain blind then by all means let them, my own newer members are earning vast resources from their ignorance so if they wish to remain ignorant puppets, let them.

White wants war, it wants many wars, war all over the land of Illyria, we will assault ANY power which threatens to become *the* dominant power, we will strike at the throath of anyone who would prevent this game from becoming an orgie of chaos, politics and multitude of alliances of similar strenght.

Peace can go copulate itself, stability can take a leaf from Dante and go take a tour of hell, you threaten the state of war KP, and I will fight to my last breath to prevent peace from choking this wonderfull game to death.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2010 at 13:05
Oohh, a conspiracy theorist!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2010 at 15:15
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

Oohh, a conspiracy theorist!

No, just a man with eyes in his head.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 May 2010 at 16:05
Originally posted by Diablito Diablito wrote:


2. Harmless has a history of completely dominating games, see Inselkampf where you yourself have stated your alliance has more score than the ENTIRE rest of the game, and the game is now completely stagnant and without action...I wonder what could possibly have caused this.



There are 11 inselkampf worlds, of which we are in 1.  They are all stagnant, which says more about the game itself and it's AWOL developer/owner than the people in each world.

You should have a little more faith in the dev's ability to make a game sufficiently interesting and complex that it doesn't lead to stagnation.

As for the rest of your diatribe - you're the distorter of facts and outright liar.  You've been caught in lies so many times in the scant few months this game has been going that there really isn't anyone that listens any more. You can now add me to that list.

EDIT: Edited by SC at user request


Edited by GM Stormcrow - 05 May 2010 at 13:44
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