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         Hi folks, great topic, great debate, long may it continue until done.
        
         

        
        
         The following are my opinions / thoughts alone.
        
        
         

        
        
         Great game and with future developments has the potential to be truly greater.
        
        
         

        
        
         OP states that newbie warfare is discouraged. Now I have not been here long, 3weeks or so but I too wondered why, within a *Military Strategy* game, this was so. My answer was not long in coming. The community or a good portion of it, set their own boundaries long ago as I understand it, not too constrict nor constrain play, players and play-styles but to encourage new growth within Illyriad by offering protection to new players so they could first learn and grow before taking their own path within the game. Brilliant I thought to myself, finally a game where I'm not looking over my shoulder from day dot.
        
        
         

        
        
         Time passes, I grow a little and take direction and advice [and res, I do so admit 
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         . War breaks out. Wait a minute...war?? But didn't those same vets tell me that war is to be discouraged here? What am I missing? I am so confused. But wait, I'm playing a Military Strategy game so it must be okay, or not...or is it, or do only a few get to play with their toys? Still confused.
        
        
         

        
        
         So I join an Alliance of like-minded folks. Please take note that I wrote "like-minded" it's important. Turns out that this Alliance is not the most popular in the world of Illyriad. I shrugged because I knew exactly what I was getting myself into. I was not blinded by rhetoric nor baffled by bull-****. I joined knowing full well the implications. This too is important to note.
        
        
         

        
        
         Thus far I have abided and agreed to the *unwritten* and therefore *implied* rule asked by the vets that I conduct myself with decorum and thought toward my intended play-style and how that would impact on my fellow Illyrians. I have not abused verbally [read:Diplomatic], physically [read: with Military] nor spiritually [read: Magic] any player in Illyriad. I say now, in full view of all, it will not always be the case. I also understand, as I am in full control of my faculties [compos mentis and all that] that there may be repercussions to my actions. It is after-all, a Military Strategy game. If my *kung-fu* is not strong, I deserve an a** whipping. No tears, no bleating, no soap-boxes, no rants. Just a good-o chap, well done what what, cheerio for now [watch ya back! 
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         I play games for my amusement and enjoyment first and foremost. I play to the best, or in most cases, worst of my ability within the strictures and rules of the game. I don't cheat, I just learn and get better, most-times. I can't recall ever having griefed, bullied, picked on a new player in any game I've played. I may use a firm hand or sharp knife, which-ever's appropriate from time to time but they are not a legitimate target to my goals. I wait, bide my time then have at it if he's still so inclined [and I've lost a lot of those too, I'm not a meta-gamer, but I do learn and get better]. Mostly however, I like helping others understand what can be a very confusing landscape. I get enjoyment from that too.
        
        
         

        
        
         So yes Rill, I heartily agree that there should be room within a Military Strategy game for the *peaceniks*[and I don't mean that sarcastically]. I heartily agree that all play-styles be welcomed here and helped to find both enjoyment and a home here. But I would also caution those who wish a *peaceful* existence here to not raise their flag too high that it discourages those that wish to take part in the militaristic play of Illyriad from also enjoying themselves. 
        
        
         

        
        
         Another poster asked "what if a newby attacks a vet?" or words to that effect. The reply was a classic in my opinion "He asked for it....smack him around a bit?" Brilliant. Says everything. It also leaves room for both to retire to their respective corners with as much dignity as possible still intact. 
        
        
         

        
        
         Avenues to neutrality exist already within Illyriad. New Player Protection [limited I know], Training Alliances and Big Brother Alliances. Then there are folks like Rill and Ryelle that have, through their own playstyle that is selflessness, garnered for themselves the biggest Alliance of all, it's called Illyriad. Anyone foolish enough to attack them will find out what that means because regardless of my militaristic tendencies, I'll be standing next to them with my puny T1 Sentinels!!
        
        
         

        
        
         Can an Illyriad Non-Aggression Charter exist? Of course it can. It just needs to be worded. It is the enforcement of said Charter that is the problem. Who becomes the ultimate Judge and Jury? Do we nominate an Alliance to be the Illyriad police force? Do we create one? What happens if someone disagrees? It hardly works in a real-world application, if we find an answer here, I'm voting you all to the UN!! This does not mean we should not try. 
        
        
         

        
        
         Wow, I just saw how long this is getting so I'm going to finish here. I'm for War on Illyriad, I'm also for Peace on Illyriad. Both exist. Just don't confuse the two if you suddenly find yourself chewing off more than you can swallow.
        
        
         

        
        
         Peace all.....but watch your backs! 
         
        
        
         

        
        
         PS: Think about tomorrow.....Factions coming....shhh...