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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Sep 2011 at 06:24
This is a pretty good discussion, I may actually remove my asshat in this one. Replies today/tomorrow folks when I have more time.

In the meantime, can someone fill in for me and come in here and act like a complete moran for a bit? Cheers!
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Your question... "Why is attacking newbs wrong?"

My question in response...  Why is attacking people who attack newbs wrong?

You are targeting people who haven't even gotten a chance to learn how to play the game yet. Why not have an actual two-sided battle with someone similar in size as you or who at least has a basic understanding of combat mechanics?  How does this create fun for you or them?

It may make you feel big and important to farm new players for resources, but I think a lot of people actually want other people to enjoy the game and the illy community to expand.  And that doesn't happen if the player is attacked the day after they get out of newbie protection.

If you want to battle it out, why not pick on someone closer to your own size?

-Jane DarkMagic
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2011 at 06:23
Originally posted by Jane DarkMagic Jane DarkMagic wrote:

Your question... "Why is attacking newbs wrong?"

My question in response...  Why is attacking people who attack newbs wrong?

You are targeting people who haven't even gotten a chance to learn how to play the game yet. Why not have an actual two-sided battle with someone similar in size as you or who at least has a basic understanding of combat mechanics?  How does this create fun for you or them?

It may make you feel big and important to farm new players for resources, but I think a lot of people actually want other people to enjoy the game and the illy community to expand.  And that doesn't happen if the player is attacked the day after they get out of newbie protection.

If you want to battle it out, why not pick on someone closer to your own size?

-Jane DarkMagic

Do you have any idea of what you are talking about?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2011 at 09:57
Quote There is another option which I would like to see come into play. A T1 war/tournament. A slightly smaller alliance may agree to go to war against a slightly larger alliance if the war was restricted to T1 siege as there is some loss/gain but the level of damage is very low compared to an entire town although maybe a new siege unit that also destroys barracks mage tower and consulate would be more exciting.

There's no reason why two alliances can't agree to these terms. Even in a hostile war, a suitably sporting larger alliance could agree to this. It seems like a good idea.

In response to what HM as talking about, re: zero sum games, I think that tournaments and organized wars (where a number of alliances duke it out for the heck of it) are exceptions, and can result in fun for all parties and contain significantly less butthurt.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2011 at 11:18
Originally posted by StJude StJude wrote:


Originally posted by Jane DarkMagic Jane DarkMagic wrote:

Your question... "Why is attacking newbs wrong?"

My question in response...  Why is attacking people who attack newbs wrong?

You are targeting people who haven't even gotten a chance to learn how to play the game yet. Why not have an actual two-sided battle with someone similar in size as you or who at least has a basic understanding of combat mechanics?  How does this create fun for you or them?

It may make you feel big and important to farm new players for resources, but I think a lot of people actually want other people to enjoy the game and the illy community to expand.  And that doesn't happen if the player is attacked the day after they get out of newbie protection.

If you want to battle it out, why not pick on someone closer to your own size?

-Jane DarkMagic


Do you have any idea of what you are talking about?


I think she does. I certainly do.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Oct 2011 at 21:52
Originally posted by Jane DarkMagic Jane DarkMagic wrote:

Your question... "Why is attacking newbs wrong?"

My question in response...  Why is attacking people who attack newbs wrong?

You are targeting people who haven't even gotten a chance to learn how to play the game yet. Why not have an actual two-sided battle with someone similar in size as you or who at least has a basic understanding of combat mechanics?  How does this create fun for you or them?

It may make you feel big and important to farm new players for resources, but I think a lot of people actually want other people to enjoy the game and the illy community to expand.  And that doesn't happen if the player is attacked the day after they get out of newbie protection.

If you want to battle it out, why not pick on someone closer to your own size?

-Jane DarkMagic


It seems like every month this debate pops up on the forums.   Attacking new players doesn't meant that the attacker wants the newbs resources, some newbs are a pain in the ass and should be attacked.  When your dog is acting up do you talk to him nicely, scold him a little bit and toss him a treat"resources" no, you scare him with coins in a can "shaking" squirt him with some water etc.

As long as theres a good reason for the attack, it should be allowed, by good reason i mean, : he knew i was in that secluded area for these four sov nodes, yet he moved there anyway, or  He's a disrespectful ass-die.
Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin
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