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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 03:12
Originally posted by Khell<font size=3>s</font> Khells wrote:

I have to be suspicious, I was blighted soon after, the first time I have been attacked since the war started and I am Juxwin's neighbor. By the way, a second hostile camp has just parked next to Juxwin.

You think that's bad, try getting a wide assortment of reports  that consist of towns being blighted and thievery/thievery attempts from your alliance member-base ironically after this forum thread was created.

By the way, aren't you in his alliance? Instead of going "hmm theres another siege camp next to my buddy" why not "help"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 04:09
Originally posted by Sisren Sisren wrote:

Khellis,
If EF says he feels blindsided and irked that this happened, I would tend to believe him.
He is a hoopy frood that does know where his towel is, not some jive talkin turkey.

I think that was me being blindsided by neutral players, not EF.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 04:12
Originally posted by Grainne Grainne wrote:

Originally posted by Juswin Juswin wrote:

How about TLR make their side categorically known instead of hiding behind the mantle of neutrality as several opportunistic alliances have been doing so far?

Would you care to clarify that rather bold statement?  Specifically, "several opportunistic alliances".  It's just a small comment, but I'm curious. And neutral.

Well there are alliances that Consone have no issue with and who have no known issue with Consone, but have also jumped into the war. Curse is a good example. Maybe opportunistic is the wrong word here, but if its not then I do not know what it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 04:22
Originally posted by Taron Taron wrote:

Its hard to find evidence when some things can be sent through IGM. You know? Private Messages.
You say I am "Trolling". Yet you sit here with the little facts you have trying to state whats what. I was involved yet you believe you are right and I am wrong? I guess I will look at things through your eyes from now on. I will look straight at one side of this box.

It was an unprovoked attack. wonka and Bonfyr Verboo attacked someone. This is all the evidence I have. So there for I should assume that TLR is full of people who want to randomly attack people for no reason.

You say you have no evidence of them being abandoned, yet where is your evidence? What evidence do you have? You were involved? Please tell me your knowledge of the facts.

You sit here saying this is 'silly' thread in the beginning, yet want to know what happens, even if it is a lie. Just like the big fat red man who gives out presents once a year. Did you know he was a lie? You sit there and believe anything that people tell you.

I believe this was an unprovoked attack with the very little evidence i have.
I stand with the defender.
You believe I am trolling, I'm only trying to help people learn that some rumors are lies.

What is your fixation with boxes?  Anyway, what I said was that I don't have any messages from you.  I have more than enough information to form my opinion.  In any event, information is not at issue.  Regardless of what may have happened, you need to stop trolling every thread you can vaguely relate back too it.  That is the point here.  

I kind of lost you on that second half, but it seems like you quoted me saying this thread is silly, which is false.  Silly things may be happening in it, but it obviously springs from a legitimate issue.  Then you started talking about overweight Native Americans and I lost you.  
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 04:24
Originally posted by ES2 ES2 wrote:

Originally posted by Khell<font size=3>s</font> Khells wrote:

I have to be suspicious, I was blighted soon after, the first time I have been attacked since the war started and I am Juxwin's neighbor. By the way, a second hostile camp has just parked next to Juxwin.

You think that's bad, try getting a wide assortment of reports  that consist of towns being blighted and thievery/thievery attempts from your alliance member-base ironically after this forum thread was created.

By the way, aren't you in his alliance? Instead of going "hmm theres another siege camp next to my buddy" why not "help"?

If you think that's bad, how about an unprovoked actual siege with 20 mangonels?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 04:45
Originally posted by Juswin Juswin wrote:

Originally posted by Sisren Sisren wrote:

Khellis,
If EF says he feels blindsided and irked that this happened, I would tend to believe him.
He is a hoopy frood that does know where his towel is, not some jive talkin turkey.

I think that was me being blindsided by neutral players, not EF.

Firstly Juswin, if you believe anyone to be 'neutral' you are a fool.  Everyone's aim is to survive, and everyone has an interest within that aim.  If you don't see that well then, I wish you luck.  The thing is that this is currently a rather nasty inter-relationship diagram.  Actions do not always have equal nor opposite reactions.  You set siege to some volks' friend - were you expecting a 'no reaction' ?

Secondly, I was not referring to you.  I was referring to EF - it would seem he had operators conducting an operation without his knowledge.

You wanted to address the issue so badly you ran to the forums?  welcome to the freak show...  It would have been easier and quicker to resolve this with EF via IGM.  But that's not really Consone's way to deal with things...  maybe yall should declare war as a whole on TLR.  ;)
It would be par for the coarse, no?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 04:48
Originally posted by Juswin Juswin wrote:

Originally posted by Grainne Grainne wrote:

Originally posted by Juswin Juswin wrote:

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Well there are alliances that Consone have no issue with and who have no known issue with Consone, but have also jumped into the war. Curse is a good example. Maybe opportunistic is the wrong word here, but if its not then I do not know what it is.

Or an alternate theory could be that Curse doesn't like seeing their friends bullied by a bunch of jive talkin turkeys...
/me shrugs

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 05:30
As usual this topic has broken down to old grudges and feuds. This is suppose to be about several unprovoked attacks on 2 members of [Druid] by 2 members of [TRL].
 
Some seem to think it's acceptable because they think this is a war game, those of us who have played real war games can only shake our heads and laugh at the insinuation that Illyriad can be classified as such.
 
Lets wait and see what happens over the next 48hrs or so. Those involved will let it be known what transpires.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 09:14
Originally posted by Sisren Sisren wrote:

Originally posted by Juswin Juswin wrote:

Originally posted by Sisren Sisren wrote:

Khellis,
If EF says he feels blindsided and irked that this happened, I would tend to believe him.
He is a hoopy frood that does know where his towel is, not some jive talkin turkey.

I think that was me being blindsided by neutral players, not EF.

Firstly Juswin, if you believe anyone to be 'neutral' you are a fool.  Everyone's aim is to survive, and everyone has an interest within that aim.  If you don't see that well then, I wish you luck.  The thing is that this is currently a rather nasty inter-relationship diagram.  Actions do not always have equal nor opposite reactions.  You set siege to some volks' friend - were you expecting a 'no reaction'?


Its par for the course.

I have never sieged TLR folks during this conflict nor have I conducted sieges against their former ally fromfrak. Can't a man ask for common courtesy? I do hope you recognize the gravity of the situation. If you just siege random people who you feel have affronted you, what has illy sunk to then?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Nov 2012 at 16:31
Jux or Jus whatever,
I and my alliance has worked too hard colonizing Greater Ursor to risk it all over a silly attack, trust me I would rather have the alliance spend its time building its cities, sov'ing and recruiting new members then to siege you or your friends.

I am nearing the end of my investigation and will gladly share the contents of it to everyone here when it is completed.

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