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Ander 
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 Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 19:56 |
That was very informative Bonaparta.
So the seller will always get his gold. It takes only 5 minutes per caravan to train. And one can train new caravans and use them as soon as their caravans are captured by a blockade. So in effect, you can get your caravans back faster if they are captured by a blockade. (Assuming you are around)
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The_Dude
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 20:21 |
Are captured vans destroyed after they deliver the captured goods?
I see them just disappear once delivery is completed.
Edited by The_Dude - 26 Nov 2012 at 20:22
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Rill
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 21:30 |
It used to be that caravans would "travel slowly to the intercepting city" before dying, during which time you could not create new caravans. My understanding is that this has changed and that you can create new caravans immediately, in which case the inconvenience of having a caravan captured by a blockade is now significantly less.
In prior times when you had to wait up to several days before you could create new caravans, the exasperation of sellers is more understandable; if it's possible to create caravans immediately, then this is really not that big a deal.
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Bonaparta
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 22:07 |
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Intercepted caravans travel to the city that sent out blockade at about 1/10 of their speed. If that city is far away that may be weeks... Once they deliver gods to the blockader they are destroyed.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 26 Nov 2012 at 23:06 |
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Well, then the reduced speed of vans penalizes the captor and does nothing to the captive player. That's silly. I understand with the greatly increased efficacy of 'cades that it is too much of a penalty to the captive player to slow them down on replacing vans, but what's the point of slow vans to the captor?
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Daufer
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 04:07 |
 The_Dude wrote:
Well, then the reduced speed of vans penalizes the captor and does nothing to the captive player. That's silly. I understand with the greatly increased efficacy of 'cades that it is too much of a penalty to the captive player to slow them down on replacing vans, but what's the point of slow vans to the captor? |
The caravans will still arrive at the capturing city... eventually... carrying goods that someone else paid for, and the purchaser who was blockaded doesn't get them. Having someone else's captured vans bring you free goodies slowly but surely as a reward for camping an army outside their walls for a while doesn't strike me as much of a penalty. Sure the town suffering the blockade can build a new caravan immediately, but they still lost gold and didn't get their stuff. Now they have to send more gold in new caravans on another shopping trip, and assuming your blockade is still in place and they are unlucky you could conceivably end up with a few hundred stolen caravans creeping to your city.
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The_Dude
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Posted: 28 Nov 2012 at 05:35 |
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as a reward for camping an army outside their walls for a while doesn't strike me as much of a penalty.
'cades are usually attacked quite a bit. I wouldn't call it "camping."
Edited by The_Dude - 28 Nov 2012 at 05:35
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Daufer
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Posted: 29 Nov 2012 at 05:13 |
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True, but since you would be blockading the city with the primary intention of stopping the flow of supplies coming in, the fact that those supplies are diverted to you instead is a bonus. Receiving a bonus slowly while your opponent/victim receives nothing at all isn't really a penalty You still get what you wanted, which is to stop them from building troops or repairing buildings at will.
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