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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 12:05
At first I thought this was a joke,then I saw what forum it was in. I suppose that shows how much I care about H? territory claim...

Have fun dealing with the vast majority of the community that does not read the forums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 12:40
Honestly I dont care what H? claims or says. There are some of their members in my alliance's(Gondor) territory and I will be telling my members they dont have to listen to what H? has  just said and they can settle their citys where ever they want to, near a H? city or not.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 12:48

If we're going to bring morality into it I think we should let H? actually clarify what they mean first.

If they exclude these settling limitations around places if interest it changes things entirely. And it also depends on how strongly they plan to enforce this claim, I.e. is the claim theoretically there for everyone, but in practice only applied to alliances and confederations that could actually be considered a threat.
 
Having said that, the land claim is on a huge scale, EACH TOWN roughly claims 1/3 of the TOTAL D lords land claim. Also pointing out that a 30 square radius has more than double the are of a 20 square radius.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 14:38
MORE SHAM THAN REALITY

Taking into account Mr Damage's and Erik Dirk's comments, the problem as I see it is not so much the issue of Land Claims ,because that is not what Kumomoto and others such as Llyron of Jaensch are really after and I would say that Kumo's post shows the true nature and desires of H? ie to dominate  and subordinate all others to their  will. Those boys love to attack , siege, dominate and humiliate. To them that is what Illyriad is about.
 
To the slightly (but only slightly)  more rationale members  of H? like Creature for example Land claims are the way forward for H? "even more so when pathfinding/tolls/walled areas and many other planned features might/will be implemented" by the development team. This latter point should not be lost on Mr Damage and Erik Dirk whose alliance Prisoners of Society (O-O) is surrounded by H? on 3 sides and DLords on the other. What will O-O do when those H? members around them start settling into Arran and claim a 30 square sov area around those cities on grounds of  "lebensraum". That could spell the end of O-O
 
Contrast Kumomoto's very brief, take it or leave it, statement above with Dlords Land claim 25 January 2011 (see link below) which  attempts a more reasoned and rationale approach and even has a procedure and declared aim to help new players who find themselves in what Dlord claims as it "Home Territories".
 

H? have not presented any draft terms for resettlement for consultation as DLords did. They have not even said that such players who find themselves in that position will be given a warning by H? Instead players are told to contact the nearest H? player in question. What if you are Newbe or don't read the forums. What then?
 
 In theory, the first you will now about is when your Town icon on the header display suddenly displays a red warning for an incoming attack. Or your quartermaster reports that you have been raided. That's Kumo's reality !
 
No if Harmless? wanted to try and legitimise their land claim, they would have presented a detailed set of proposals for consultation. Making Land claims on the basis of forcible removal alone is a bad precedent to set. Other alliances should have nothing to do with this sham in its present form.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 14:43
lol, I suspect people do not realize that Kumo is just kidding.  :P  For the record (and those that are taking this seriously) H? has no policy to this effect.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 15:02
Originally posted by Starry Starry wrote:

lol, I suspect people do not realize that Kumo is just kidding.  :P  For the record (and those that are taking this seriously) H? has no policy to this effect.

Though Starry would know much better than I and pretty much confirms my suspicions, I do suspect this is actually Kumo (and Fluffly in his thread too) taking the proverbial pee out of some current Illy affairs.... not naming any names! 

Check other threads in the (Bitter Sea) forum if your confused but if you are the question begs to be asked... Where the hell have you been? Timbuktu? 

Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 16:39
I guess there needed to be more flamboyant display of tongues firmly planted in cheeks this thread.  Tongue

But indeed, consider this as the satirical commentary on other recent events which Harmless intended.  We are absolutely not making any territorial claims at this time, nor have we been considering making such thus far.  And if we did, you could rest assured we'd try to find a more reasonable approach, and certainly not make blanket radial claims applying to all our cities wherever they may be.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 16:40
I guess noone saw the tongue in the cheek... :(
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 16:51
Its easy to ignore when you are part of the #1.  Care to forward the original text to me?  I'm interested in seeing it.

And yea, I understand its supposed to be satire.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jun 2011 at 16:53
Originally posted by Kumomoto Kumomoto wrote:

I guess noone saw the tongue in the cheek... :(

LOL, It did have me wondering for a second till the caffine kicked in.  LOL
Doesn't look good... doesn't look bad either!

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