TIVIUM and EAGLES

scaramouche wrote: you obviously completely ignored Haths reasons....so no more point in listening to your statements

Oh come on...with all the drama this actually *is* a little funny =)

mmmmmmm. the war grows larger...more bloodshed..............remember even small accounts can take down the mighty with the proper strategy.......may all give good account of themselves, may we weep for those that will fall, and uncle hath remember to behave yourself

Deranzin wrote: scaramouche wrote: I wasn't referring to the trivial reference Denzarin..but their siege on a confed alliance without declaring...even you seem to focus on the small detail without seeing the bigger picture. Do you even read what we are writting .?.  I already said that I do not judge the reasons for going to war (and I am obviously in no position to do so), but I cannot notice and laugh at the hypocricy of people that on the big war pretend to be peaceloving hippies that chant "give peace a chance" on every occasion and on smaller wars suddenly go trigger-happy and make silly doupleposting "mistakes" (as if there isn't an edit button).  I respect yout opinion, but if this is not the "bigger picture" for you, then this is not my problem.  Tordenkaffen wrote: Oh come on...with all the drama this actually *is* a little funny =) What drama ? I am having grand fun with all that ...

As,  so many have stated,  so many times,  in so many threads...everyone has their own opinion and views...you see the hypocrisy as the bigger deal, I see Haths reasons for this thread as the bigger deal...so we'll agree to dis-agree.

I know you can't be bothered to follow up on your own thread in any sort of timely manner but I'm gonna post this anyway.

You DID NOT edit the spelling mistake but instead chose to make a "trivial" joke out of our name. There is an edit button but you didn't use it. Whatever, but don't deny what is clear to everyone paying the slightest bit of attention.

Without declaring war on us you attacked our siege on a VALAR city, one of your Confederates. In my opinion, doing that without a declaration was fine. Siege breaking is a time honored tradition here in Illyriad. It was annoying to loose thirty thousand plus troops AFTER the city fell but we don't feel ONLY attacking armies in the field is an act of war. Guess we were wrong.

We attacked your siege on a former TLR member (for those not in the know, TVM basically used to be TLR.) We answered a call. I see no difference in the two situations other than we are only in a NAP with Dlords. I guess we were wrong again.

I don't particularly care about your declaration, since you made your intentions to leave it at that publicly clear here. What I care about is your attempt to smear my family. "Tivium have constantly attacked seiges that we are performing and refuse to declare war, we will do so to make sure everyone knows what the stakes are." You constantly (the use of that word is a bit much but since you guys killed so much more of ours than we did of yours, I figured I could use it as well) attacked our siege and refused to declare war. I don't see a difference.

The truth is you and your alliance's actions are hypocritical. You have never approached me with anything other than a palpable disdain. When you sent one of your general membership to insist I answer a rude and demanding message, I replied and made it clear we would not be answering such requests again. You may feel you have some authority in the northern region but I assure you, we do not agree.