This is where I stand (H/C war)

"To thine own self be true."

Umm yeah that statement may be true when thine self is alone but when you decide to join a group of others 

KillerPoodle wrote: Darmon wrote: As a newish player, I think HM's post contained some interesting points. HonoredMule wrote: You didn't know about our close relationship with RHY, so you felt free to presumptuously assign blame to them, satisfying your thirst for an honorable position that gets to perform some theatrical moral objection. Do H? members not know who their own secret allies are?  I thought the allies were just supposed to be secret to outsiders?  Some kinda...double-secret allies?  This seems like one potential downside to non-public relationships. There are different levels of access within H? (as there are in almost every alliance). A secret shared with 100 people is no longer a secret.

No one is calling SunStorm a bad guy but it does appear he misjudged us (as a whole alliance) and we misjudged him which simply means we are not a good fit for each other after all, having conflicting ideals.

I'm disappointed in how he handled this discovery, but overall bear no ill-will toward him and wish him the best as he did us.  As for what happens when this kind of difference arises, you just saw it.  We parted ways.  You might also note that we didn't do it on convenient timing, after using up his troops in defenses and such.

As for the keeping of secrets, I've volunteered far more detail and background regarding that to our members than I care to discuss here, and they're equipped to decide for themselves if our conduct and strategy in this matter was appropriate and justified.  You can make this a "leadership vs ignorant masses" thing all you want, but we don't hold the #1 position by padding our ranks with barely-active rubes.  If anyone thinks otherwise, go right ahead and try to better "inform" them.  If you're right, maybe more will leave.  If you're really right, maybe a bunch will start giving their leaders feedback that they'd rather be headed in a different direction and sway us to rethink our approach.

BlindScribe wrote: H? apparently even keeps its own membership in the dark about who their secret (ubersecret?) friends are

The NAP was published months ago in the  Herald Diplomatic, it was visible on the public alliance diplomacy pages, and players interested in diplomacy knew that the farmers rarely offer or accept NAPs.

BlindScribe wrote: Just trying to understand what I view as a most "unusual" mindset.

Most players in my alliance don't care about diplomacy, and I guess that's the "usual" mindset everywhere.