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    Posted: 06 Dec 2010 at 17:36
Hello every body!

We are the Swiss Dungeon Lords and we are a little Alliance composed with a Dwarf and a Human
we are only two players and we ask "HELP" to the other members of Alliance!!!

We wanted help because the big "Dark Blight" Alliance fight us, we are too little to defend us great we have anymore chance to counter their attack.
They are launching a siege attack against me, and i don't know how can i counter this attack.

Please Help Us !

We thank you.
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Ask some mercenary to blow up their seige...
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DB are attacking you? Who exactly is sending the siege? We are too busy with TMM for sideshows?
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We are currently investigating these claims. DB are at war with TMM and that is the only official combat operation we are undertaking. Any rogue elements within DB attacking any other targets will be severely punished.
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Points: 4 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 06:47
That was an act from "Aberdon" and his city: "Aberdonville" , "Bielside", "Cults" .

that was the message who advertise me:

"The Siege of Yartar belonging to Geoffroy will take 12 hours to prepare, and will be ready to begin bombardment at 07DEC10 03:14.

No further details are available"

I don't lie !

The siege attack is now finished. But i was attacked by him multiple time.
Wa are beginner and wa have no chance against [DB] so i have any advantage to
lie on this Forum. I know that is de heart of the game: "war" "Alliance" " Diplomacy" and i
understand it, but i can't play anymore on my capital and i think it's a little bit exagerate.
If I make a mistake I ask you to excuse me.
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Points: 2396 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Dec 2010 at 17:23
Originally posted by Geoffroy Geoffroy wrote:

That was an act from "Aberdon" and his city: "Aberdonville" , "Bielside", "Cults" .

that was the message who advertise me:

"The Siege of Yartar belonging to Geoffroy will take 12 hours to prepare, and will be ready to begin bombardment at 07DEC10 03:14.

No further details are available"

I don't lie !

The siege attack is now finished. But i was attacked by him multiple time.
Wa are beginner and wa have no chance against [DB] so i have any advantage to
lie on this Forum. I know that is de heart of the game: "war" "Alliance" " Diplomacy" and i
understand it, but i can't play anymore on my capital and i think it's a little bit exagerate.
If I make a mistake I ask you to excuse me.
So if I am following this correctly, Geoffroy destroyed the siege army before any bombardment.  That does not sound like a desparate defense losing ground.
 
Are attacks continuing?
 
I think I understand that Metallicus has publicly stated that whatever has happened is NOT a DB alliance sanction action.  And I think I understand that Metallicus is instructing DB members to cease hostilities towards Geoffroy.
 
If I am correctly understanding the facts to date, then all this resolved and peace has been restored.

TD
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I find that a little bit Comic and strange, when I ask some Help all the attacks has stopped...

I'm sorry for disturb you all but i was really attacked and we have asked some help becaus we was really worried...

Thank you all for your answers .

Good game you all !

 
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Originally posted by Geoffroy Geoffroy wrote:

I find that a little bit Comic and strange, when I ask some Help all the attacks has stopped...

I'm sorry for disturb you all but i was really attacked and we have asked some help becaus we was really worried...

Thank you all for your answers .

Good game you all !

 
Nothing strange about this at all.  As best as I can tell, the first time DB Leadership learned about your situation was when you posted on this forum.  And it looks like Metallicus immediately worked to get a handle on things for you.  This is not strange, this is effective and wise alliance leadership by Metallicus.  [Aside: Kudos to Metallicus and DB. Clap]
 
Geoffroy (and all other newer alliances), the best, most effective, method for handling disputes with other alliances is this:
 
1) Very First Action should be to contact the Leadership of the alliance that is attacking you.  Look at the Alliance Page for that alliance to see who they want to be thier Foreign Minister.  If you can not tell who the Foreign Minister is, then contact the Alliance Founder or other named Contact. 
 
Your message should be calmly worded and you should be respectful.  Sometimes this is difficult because you will feel that you are the victim and you might be angry or upset so it is important to take a moment to relax and write your note carefully with as little emotion in it as you can manage.
 
You should provide as many details as possible.  If you have a Battle Report (or diplo confession), copy/paste that into your note...it will greatly assist the Alliance Leaders in resolving the situation quickly and with the least pain to everyone.  Otherwise, remember the basics of journalism: tell  Who, What, When, Where, How, and Why.
 
2) If you have tried the above, but the attacking Alliance ignores you or insists that will continue attacking you...Then bring the matter to the attention of other alliances.  Ideally, you will contact alliances (privately by mail) that you have already established NAP or Confederation with to solicit their assistance in resolving the matter.
 
3) If you have tried #2 (or do not have NAP/Confed partners), then you should bring the matter to this forum for the general public to consider.
 
I wish to stress the importance of trying to resolve the situation privately first and foremost.  Doing so shows that you are respectful and that is more likely to get you respect in return.  Also, things said in public can make it harder for the other side to work with you because they might feel like they will "loose face" if they are seen to compromise in public.  Some people mistakenly think compromise = weakness.
 
I also wish to stress the importance of establishing NAP/Confed partners _before_ trouble befalls you.  Doing this will discourage many agressors from starting trouble to begin with.  "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure."
 
Finally, make sure you behave, too.  In other words, avoid attacking (including killing caravans), scouting, spying, stealing, etc from active players, whether they are in an alliance or not.  This will eliminate any retalitory attacks against you.  And this will make it easier for you to establish NAP/Confed with other alliances.
 
Good luck and good gaming!
 
TD


Edited by The_Dude - 07 Dec 2010 at 20:18
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Ok i write this in my mind.

Thank you very mutch for your explanation, i'm sorry for all the trouble i did !

I was effectly very angry because i didn't understand why they attack so often, but you're right, the solution to write on the forum wasn't a good idea.

I will do what you've said. Normally that was what i had ever did, only this time was an exception.

Sorry for my english.

Good game all.
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