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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 18:57
Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

Well I can understand if you didn't go through all the posts.   Although I find it odd that you managed to find my post yet ignored Kumo's.

The original post is on page 8, but its also quoted in 3 or 4 of the other pages in the thread.  

If your gonna try and say bad on H? for not sharing info, at least check to see that H? and coalition didn't already share more info than anti-coalition.  Despite you 'volunteering' said info.  

Now is your chance to mend that mistake please next time you post give us this information you 'volunteered' that we already posted for the entire Illy community.  
I read that just fine, What i dont see still is the towns you all have claimed to have destroyed other than you jus saying you have. So Again, Ill list our side as soon as H? can do the same, or you all can keep lying. Also why refer yourself as Coalition when you claimed to of disbanded? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 19:04
Originally posted by The Duke The Duke wrote:

 I read that just fine, What i dont see still is the towns you all have claimed to have destroyed other than you jus saying you have. So Again, Ill list our side as soon as H? can do the same, or you all can keep lying. Also why refer yourself as Coalition when you claimed to of disbanded? 

You said you volunteered the information.  If you volunteer the information then it doesn't matter if coalition gives out there info or not.  If English is your second language there are plenty of places to learn the meaning of common words.  I would start here 

And perhaps you don't realize no matter what list is provided it will be a list of "just said so" thats why I support the auto-tracker for it.  That being said Coalition has still provided a count where as anti-coalition has not.  Nor have you provided a list of towns that you volunteered.  

I say again now is your chance to mend that mistake please next time you post give us this information you 'volunteered' that we already posted for the entire Illy community.  Please not how when we volunteered the information it was given freely because we understand the meaning of the word.  

Oh your right we should refer to ourselves as the New Coalition, from now just assume whenever you see Coalition it means New Coalition.  For brevity sake.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 19:16
Just from taking 5 minutes to look up 6 or so H? members I remember seeing sieges on and checking their town history on Illytools shows me 10 towns razed and at least 4 exodus.  That is 5 minutes work that any outsider could do, without checking NC, TCol, RES, TVM, DLords ect.

I told you before I have 9 towns razed and 1 forced exodus vs 1 town lost and 2 forced exo's against us.  Now if you can tell me what alliance exactly lost over 20 towns by all means please do.  Otherwise just keep telling yourself what you want.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 19:18
Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

You said you volunteered the information.  If you volunteer the information then it doesn't matter if coalition gives out there info or not.  If English is your second language there are plenty of places to learn the meaning of common words.  I would start here 

Ahhhh.... not really... are you serious? Confused

Kumo is asking for detailed town and player names razed, so is The Duke...  What is your problem?!

Both don't want to accept the raw numbers they claim to be completely made up from the opposite side. Both want the same, yet logic seems to be second language here LOL

If you all have problems with sending them first, send them lists to me, and I'll flip them over and send them on... I'm so selflessly helpful today...  Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 19:22
Originally posted by DeathDealer89 DeathDealer89 wrote:

Originally posted by The Duke The Duke wrote:

 I read that just fine, What i dont see still is the towns you all have claimed to have destroyed other than you jus saying you have. So Again, Ill list our side as soon as H? can do the same, or you all can keep lying. Also why refer yourself as Coalition when you claimed to of disbanded? 

You said you volunteered the information.  If you volunteer the information then it doesn't matter if coalition gives out there info or not.  If English is your second language there are plenty of places to learn the meaning of common words.  I would start here 

And perhaps you don't realize no matter what list is provided it will be a list of "just said so" thats why I support the auto-tracker for it.  That being said Coalition has still provided a count where as anti-coalition has not.  Nor have you provided a list of towns that you volunteered.  

I say again now is your chance to mend that mistake please next time you post give us this information you 'volunteered' that we already posted for the entire Illy community.  Please not how when we volunteered the information it was given freely because we understand the meaning of the word.  

Oh your right we should refer to ourselves as the New Coalition, from now just assume whenever you see Coalition it means New Coalition.  For brevity sake.
Ok well Anti New Coalition has now razed 100 towns forced 35 exodus and captured 0. Point is, you offering info is really offering lies, so until you can come up with a list that can easily be proven your propaganda is pointless. 
If you want tho Id be happy to discuss peace with you, I know it must  hard losing your first war 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 19:42
Originally posted by The Duke The Duke wrote:

Ok well Anti New Coalition has now razed 100 towns forced 35 exodus and captured 0.


So, if I am understanding this well ... you are demanding accurate information in exchange of petulant irony .?.  LOL

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 19:55
Originally posted by Deranzin Deranzin wrote:

Originally posted by The Duke The Duke wrote:

Ok well Anti New Coalition has now razed 100 towns forced 35 exodus and captured 0.


So, if I am understanding this well ... you are demanding accurate information in exchange of petulant irony .?.  LOL

No- you seem to be short on brain cells, what im offering you is our accurate city data for the same deal on your side. These can both be easily cross referenced via illy tools or by simply checking said players profiles. The only reason i see this being an issue is that your numbers are inaccurate and your lying. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 19:58
That's for providing your numbers - how confident are you that they are correct?

Reading back in the other thread the discussion goes as follows:

1) Kumo says - we think the numbers are X
2) The Duke says "No way, we've razed Y"
3) Kumo says - "OK - please tell us which they are and we'll add them to the list"
4) Elmindra says "You're wrong, we're razed Z"
5) Kumo says - "Ok - please tell us which ones and we'll add them to our list"

At which point everyone starts lambasting Kumo who was being extremely polite and the whole thing degenerates with everyone on the Anti side using a school ground "you first" style argument.

So, I'll repeat, tell us which ones you believe you have razed and and we can add them to the list.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 20:05
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

That's for providing your numbers - how confident are you that they are correct?

Reading back in the other thread the discussion goes as follows:

1) Kumo says - we think the numbers are X
2) The Duke says "No way, we've razed Y"
3) Kumo says - "OK - please tell us which they are and we'll add them to the list"
4) Elmindra says "You're wrong, we're razed Z"
5) Kumo says - "Ok - please tell us which ones and we'll add them to our list"

At which point everyone starts lambasting Kumo who was being extremely polite and the whole thing degenerates with everyone on the Anti side using a school ground "you first" style argument.

So, I'll repeat, tell us which ones you believe you have razed and and we can add them to the list.

lol Kumo was just being polite. I hope thats how his name is remembered through the ages. Kumo"The Polite" Moto. 
Allow me to repeat some of your own words KP
"If you guys aren't organised enough to keep track that's kinda your problem and if you want to dispute numbers then you're free to present your own proof instead."
So here again, Im all for sharing, but if H? wants to continue to claim they have razed X amount then lets see. Otherwise your misleading "count" can stay inflated and We can jus say Anti New Coalition has razed 75 towns. Since this is what your doing
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 17 Nov 2013 at 20:07
Actually Duke thats the first time you have ever posted or IGM'd any info whatsoever.  

What propaganda? This is your post about how you freely offered info.  It only took till the second page for you to give any of the info you volunteered.  Course you volunteered a list of cities and finally gave total count but with your lack of understanding of what volunteer means we will let that slide.  

Odd though how all your numbers came out to be nice factors of 5 almost like u made them up on the spot.  I'm sure we can figure out why your  numbers seem off by an order of magnitude.  

I find it odd that Shade would sue for peace so early in war they declared and according to these numbers you spout are winning.  I can't discuss peace with you but I'm sure KP would be willing to accept your surrender if your so eager to get out of the war

You know before somebody figures out how you managed to kill what 6-7 cities a day or a lost city every 3-4hrs?  I must say that is quite a feat.  I'm also very impressed how so many players/alliances seem not to notice these 'vast' losses.  Actually you probably have to update your list just in the time this thread has been up at that speed.  

Elmindra  Your towns razed may be correct different than the one I have but since you got ur info from Illytools I can understand the difference.  But I also know EE has had at least 2 razed and apparently more exoduses than i thought.

But your numbers are at least believable.  







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