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    Posted: 28 Apr 2011 at 20:45
I'm sure that over the last few weeks, you have seen James Russell on these forums, on GC, etc. Some ex-CrowB members may know him from his brief period in that alliance.
So, to briefly outline the history of JR. His grandfather, daver123, invited him to the game, and brought him to CrowB. He enjoyed it there, but after some of his friends leaving the game (Bragdush the Bald, foremost) he chose to leave CrowB and find a new alliance. He first asked T?, but after a few hours of no reply he changed his mind. He went to Dark Blight, my alliance. I offered him the invitation.
First off, he was interested in sorting out recruitment. But our problem with giving him recruitment rights was that we weren't completely happy with giving someone, brand-new to the alliance, recruitment rights. We are always very cautious with our recruits, and we decided that we should give ourself time to settle into DB before giving him the rights. 
JR kept pestering us about the rights, but we kept stalling him, until one day Belthazor told him that we weren't ready to trust him yet. JR got angry, and threatened to leave. Luckily I smoothed the situation over before it could esculate. But the incident served two purposes- it began to tell us of the rising tension between Belthazor and JR. And it also told me of the fact that JR, if annoyed, may leave DB. Which I wasn't particularly pleased about, but I couldn't do anything about it. Apart from keep my eye on him.
It wasn't enough.
One day, JR (I can't remember the exact circumstances) said some racist things to Belth. This annoyed him slightly, but Belth turned it into a joke and recorded the chat logs. As it turned out, this was useful, but I won't post those chat logs here. They'll just get removed by SC for profanity.
After that, me and Belth started joking lightly about me dating his sister. And let it be known that we were not insulting at ALL to his sister. But in jumps JR, and announces:
No... I'd better not say. But basicly, toned down a bit, he said that he'd have sex with Belth's sister and walk away a happy man.
Belthazor feels great loyalty to his family, and got furious. He left DB, and attacked JR, who was amazed, and thought that Belth overreacted. I'll leave THAT decision to you....
And now we reach today. Well, they've been fighting, quite a bit actually, for the past day or so. He's been offered aid on GC (Belth, this is) but he's decided to take it alone. Well... alone and with me. I'm assisting him.
However, Dr Gonzo is now sending troops against Belth. Kind of convenient timing for JR....
So that's the situation. We're NOT asking for help. We're telling the world of the full situation,  and I hope that you will be on the right side. OUR side.


Edited by Nokigon - 01 May 2011 at 16:57
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I will also speak. Forgive me,for I do not have Nok's eloquence. Jr, over the past few days, showed a lack of maturity amazing. He was mad at me,mainly, because my monitor died and I wasn't as much active as always.He failed to understand that I have an history with DB and our older members he never had. He also failed to understand that my attack was a lesson.Yes, a lesson. I was a fool once,too. But I changed my ways. Once,I made Cerb mad. Cerb attacked me. I thank him for that. If he hadn't done that, I woundl't have evolved. I would be like him. We don't ask for your support. We only ask for your comprehension. Please understand this is something we will handle ourselves. This is personal. Thank you.
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[20:50]<James Russell> hehe, Nokigon belthazor is a wimp, cannot fight hes own battles, CHAMP are going to crush you tongue, :P

[20:49]<James Russell> Wahey DB are wimps

[20:52]<James Russell> Nokigon i'll burn you to the ground you noob

[20:54]<James Russell> First two attacks are real armies, and the next is siege, james kills siege army winking, ;)

[20:55]<James Russell> KS you have 600 pop so shut it or i'll use my troops to finish you happy, :)

[20:57]<James Russell> CD shut the f up happy, :)[20:

These logs show that JR brings this upon himself. And for insulting DB, his opponents have just quadrupled.

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sounds to me someone should teach JR a harsh lesson
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Originally posted by Nokigon Nokigon wrote:

After that, me and Belth started joking lightly about me dating his sister. And let it be known that we were not insulting at ALL to his sister. But in jumps JR, and announces:
No... I'd better not say. But basically, toned down a bit, he said that he'd have sex with Belth's sister and walk away a happy man.



While I feel that people posting topics like this to the forums is a complete waste of time, and it seems to show that they are unsure if they are in right and want the opinion of everyone else.


That quote above, it may have seen like a light joke to you and the other participants, but to JR it could have been viewed as a direct insult upon his family.  Therefor he then retaliated and made a comment about Belthazors family.


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Originally posted by Nokigon Nokigon wrote:

[20:50]<James Russell> hehe, Nokigon belthazor is a wimp, cannot fight hes own battles, CHAMP are going to crush you tongue, :P

[20:49]<James Russell> Wahey DB are wimps

[20:52]<James Russell> Nokigon i'll burn you to the ground you noob

[20:54]<James Russell> First two attacks are real armies, and the next is siege, james kills siege army winking, ;)

[20:55]<James Russell> KS you have 600 pop so shut it or i'll use my troops to finish you happy, :)

[20:57]<James Russell> CD shut the f up happy, :)[20:

These logs show that JR brings this upon himself. And for insulting DB, his opponents have just quadrupled.



Again a bad way to try to sway public favor, this is clearly showing the part of the conversation you want us "the public" to see.  Where is the whole conversation?
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Originally posted by Belthazor Belthazor wrote:

I will also speak. Forgive me,for I do not have Nok's eloquence. Jr, over the past few days, showed a lack of maturity amazing. He was mad at me,mainly, because my monitor died and I wasn't as much active as always.He failed to understand that I have an history with DB and our older members he never had. He also failed to understand that my attack was a lesson.Yes, a lesson. I was a fool once,too. But I changed my ways. Once,I made Cerb mad. Cerb attacked me. I thank him for that. If he hadn't done that, I woundl't have evolved. I would be like him. We don't ask for your support. We only ask for your comprehension. Please understand this is something we will handle ourselves. This is personal. Thank you.



Lastly this comment right here "Please understand this is something we will handle ourselves. This is personal. Thank you".

If it is a personal matter why did you feel the need to post this on the forums?
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Points: 1191 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 28 Apr 2011 at 22:27
don't you guys know there's a tourny on? ;)
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To put it frankly these three player's have tarnished DB's image. James mailed me a few day's prior to this drama unfolding inviting me to join DB, I checked out the alliance profile and admit DB looked a cool alliance. I mailed back and asked for an invite. That's when my view changed, DB has a lot of inactive's the main players were the three in question and it's was like listening to a bunch of kid's. The last straw for me was when JR got attacked by a fellow member, I cut all tie's and quit. I say let them battle it out themselve's and pay no heed to it, it remind's me of being back in school havin a punchup in the playground
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I have had word from Dr. Gonzo regarding his attack upon DB. This attack Is Gonzo's reaction to comments made yesterday on public forum about the Eternal Champions. He reports it was Bel and Nokigon. I consider both rodents and have armies larger than their populations so I let the matter slide. (two fools who bellow for their own egos sake) I don't think Gonzo wanted to let it go so easy. I believe Gonzo is about equal to them, so it should be a good match, 1 Champ against two blighters... I think they're in trouble Dead
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