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Hora 
Postmaster
Joined: 10 May 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 839 |
 Posted: 22 Oct 2013 at 23:36 |
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/me hands over popcorn to ES2 and Tyrande
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KillerPoodle
Postmaster General
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 1853 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 04:25 |
 Hora wrote:
Torden... are you actually asking from Crow to do voluntarilly, what you tried to force on Consone by a half year war?!
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Cough... Rill
Cough... 18 months of "You're evil and chould change"
cough cough....
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Vanerin
Forum Warrior
Joined: 05 Oct 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 418 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 05:08 |
H? emulating Rill?!
/me finds a sturdy dwarf to hold onto while the world shakes
Or is this tu quoque?
/me lets go of sturdy dwarf...
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Mr Damage
Postmaster
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 598 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 05:11 |
Gragnog wrote:
Mr Damage wrote:
KillerPoodle wrote:
Darkwords wrote:
however I would say that overall it is clear that this was nothing but a poor attempt with no background as there has been nothing presented here to back up that argument, or counter the claim published here that the Crow family is overall a peaceful block within Illyria.
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You mean aside from the fact that a certain crow wing is currently pursuing an unjustified personal vendetta at 5:1 odds in their favour, trying their hardest to escalate it and until recently was expecting a bunch of other crow wings to back them up?
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Have all parties involved publicly acknowledged their participation or is their still a secret society out there much like the Soup/Coal war? My reason for asking is some noted curious attack/defence stats recently in herald and perhaps some strategic alliance membership changes. In light of this, perhaps the odds are a little more clouded than we may perceive KP.
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This is a war game. Of course there are things going on that grunts like me and most of the players are totally unaware of, and thus all that remains is being true to your character and living the role.
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No argument with that Grag.
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Mr Damage
Postmaster
Joined: 01 Jan 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 598 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 05:14 |
KillerPoodle wrote:
Mr Damage wrote:
Have all parties involved publicly acknowledged their participation or is their still a secret society out there much like the Soup/Coal war? My reason for asking is some noted curious attack/defence stats recently in herald and perhaps some strategic alliance membership changes. In light of this, perhaps the odds are a little more clouded than we may perceive KP.
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Well, if you believe Hath then there is a long list of large alliances just champing at the bit to get into a major server-wide war including your alliance :)
FYI - 5:1 is now an underestimate...
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Haven't heard that one KP but you guys have been number one long enough to be used to dealing with the challenges so doubt there's any concern.
Odds are a bit like averages really, meaningless. Time will tell.
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Darkwords
Postmaster General
Joined: 23 May 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 1005 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 09:21 |
KillerPoodle wrote:
Darkwords wrote:
however I would say that overall it is clear that this was nothing but a poor attempt with no background as there has been nothing presented here to back up that argument, or counter the claim published here that the Crow family is overall a peaceful block within Illyria.
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You mean aside from the fact that a certain crow wing is currently pursuing an unjustified personal vendetta at 5:1 odds in their favour, trying their hardest to escalate it and until recently was expecting a bunch of other crow wings to back them up?
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Are you seriously claiming that helping out their allies who were out-numbered in a war is in some way an "unjustified personal vendetta"???
If so have you even put an ounce of thought into the previous actions of your alliance?
I feel an alliance name change coming along... Hypocritical?
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Deranzin
Postmaster
Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 845 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 09:23 |
Hora wrote:
Who are all those people in H? to tell other alliances how to organize their alliances?! You're talking to nearly a quarter of the server here...
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You do realize that this was his opinion and he wanted to discuss an idea he has, right .?.
Just because he is in H? does anything Tordenkaffen (or any other member) says make him "all those people in H?".?.
Come on ... ok, I understand that you didn't like his idea (hey, I didn't either. Fancy that  ), but that is no reason to throw a tantrum like that. 
Hora wrote:
Yes, shutting down the confed would be good... for H?... as they would be number 1 without a fight...
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Number one in what .?. And more importantly "why ?"
That assumption that all H? cares about is being "number 1" is just this ... an assumption (and a false one at that ) ...
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Oh, and in case anyone gets confused I may have to write the disclaimer that all the above are just my opinion as a simple member of H? and therefore they OBVIOUSLY do not reflect upon the alliance as a whole.
Have a nice day :)
Edited by Deranzin - 23 Oct 2013 at 09:37
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Gragnog
Postmaster
Joined: 28 Nov 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 598 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 10:26 |
Deranzin wrote:
Hora wrote:
Who are all those people in H? to tell other alliances how to organize their alliances?! You're talking to nearly a quarter of the server here...
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You do realize that this was his opinion and he wanted to discuss an idea he has, right .?.
Just because he is in H? does anything Tordenkaffen (or any other member) says make him "all those people in H?".?.
Come on ... ok, I understand that you didn't like his idea (hey, I didn't either. Fancy that ), but that is no reason to throw a tantrum like that.
Hora wrote:
Yes, shutting down the confed would be good... for H?... as they would be number 1 without a fight...
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Number one in what .?. And more importantly "why ?"
That assumption that all H? cares about is being "number 1" is just this ... an assumption (and a false one at that ) ...
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Oh, and in case anyone gets confused I may have to write the disclaimer that all the above are just my opinion as a simple member of H? and therefore they OBVIOUSLY do not reflect upon the alliance as a whole.
Have a nice day :)
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I was having a nice day, but now I am a bit disturbed. You mean H? does not want to be the no 1 farming alliance in illy? And here I thought all my efforts at keeping my lands clean and ploughed had meaning. What am I going to do now? Oh wait, this thread is about Crows. How the hell did it evolve into a thread about H? again. Is everyone out to try and confuse me again? Lets keep it on the topic. Simple folks like me are easily confused and quick to act before thinking.
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Kaggen is my human half
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Redfist
Greenhorn
Joined: 14 Aug 2010
Location: Duraz Karag
Status: Offline
Points: 91 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 10:49 |
Yes indeed Gragnog - threads to tend become more confusing with each post added to it by a member of that poor misunderstood and abused bunch of farmers - Harmless? and this thread seems to contain more than a few of those.
What we need is clarification at the point where things started to go wrong, which was:
scottfitz wrote:
I too, Capricorne, yearn for an older vision of what it meant to be a Crow |
No Tord. You got it wrong. He wasn't talking about Crowfed. When Scotty said he was yearning for Old Crow he meant this :
After all - he ain't called Ol' Sour Mash for nothing
Edited by Redfist - 23 Oct 2013 at 11:01
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Hora
Postmaster
Joined: 10 May 2010
Status: Offline
Points: 839 |
Posted: 23 Oct 2013 at 13:51 |
Deranzin wrote:
Hora wrote:
Who are all those people in H? to tell other alliances how to organize their alliances?! You're talking to nearly a quarter of the server here...
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You do realize that this was his opinion and he wanted to discuss an idea he has, right .?.
Just because he is in H? does anything Tordenkaffen (or any other member) says make him "all those people in H?".?.
Come on ... ok, I understand that you didn't like his idea (hey, I didn't either. Fancy that ), but that is no reason to throw a tantrum like that.
Hora wrote:
Yes, shutting down the confed would be good... for H?... as they would be number 1 without a fight...
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Number one in what .?. And more importantly "why ?"
That assumption that all H? cares about is being "number 1" is just this ... an assumption (and a false one at that ) ...
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Oh, and in case anyone gets confused I may have to write the disclaimer that all the above are just my opinion as a simple member of H? and therefore they OBVIOUSLY do not reflect upon the alliance as a whole.
Have a nice day :)
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Deranzin, yes I know that not all people in an alliance think the same way...
...but remembering this thread being a response to exactly those (imo ridiculous) accusations about stiffling gameplay and such by some seniour members of H?, with Torden again talking along similar lines, I talked about "all those players", not "all players".
Thus not off-topic at all!
If Crow is stable enough to keep all those alliances => good to me
If Crow becomes unstable because of many alliances => fine, should be interesting
So why tell them what to do (or suggest, in this case)? Did anyone tell H? to desintegrate at times of their greatest power? I don't think so...
And about being/staying/having been number 1... fighting and winning 3 world wars does this to ones reputation
Hope this clarifies a bit... nice day to you, too =)
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