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Points: 1005 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Oct 2013 at 07:49
Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Actually Sir A - some crows were ready to get into the Consone war on the side of H? but we asked them to stay out to try to keep things fair numbers wise...


Whilst that is true there where more who wanted to join the other side (at least amongst Crow [now vCrow]), however the leadership ensured no-one was involved in either side. 

Due to the construct of the Crow alliance and our open attitude toward membership and game play, we have members with a very broad spectrum of friends across many alliances and confederations. 

This is most probably the main factor which has always motivated us to stay out of any major warfare.
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Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Actually Sir A - some crows were ready to get into the Consone war on the side of H? but we asked them to stay out to try to keep things fair numbers wise...


btw ... The name's Braggie. James Braggie....
I was the one who caught the Starry account researching "Crowfed"  on the forum the day before Angrim wrote his opening post ....( cue Bond   Braggie's theme)  Cool


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You humans and elfs (and some times dwarfs too) are so complicated.

We orcs when we fell threated by some neighbor we just attack and get over whit it.
Or when we don't like some one, we also attack. When we don't like what someone or group does, or the way they think.. attack. If we dont like the way they look at us.. you guess it... attack! Even if we do like some we sometimes still attack them... just for fun and after battle friendship.

(How i wish i was still young...)

Humans and elfs are always complicating the simplest  things in life. Don't tell me you (humans and so own..) also go the argument/talk way when you are interested in an lady instead of just bashing her in the head and carrier her in shoulders to your "Hut".. ?

Loved the poodle.. got one myself.. i mean.. for lunch.. ofc.

Yes i know my post din't actually add nothing to the topic, but i guess nor must of the others posts.. since like someone already told, theres something not quite right when an alliance has to explain is mere existence. (why can't be and let be?)

My point of view like always is my own only. Also, even if i do advocated aggression some times, please don't attack me. I need an extra year or two to make some bunny's... I meant, army's.
Also, I'm just an SCH Spy, so not really a Crow (i don't even know how to fly, yes i tried already din't go well). But don't say them that i said that.

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Originally posted by Wolfgangvondi Wolfgangvondi wrote:

You humans and elfs (and some times dwarfs too) are so complicated. .


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Originally posted by KillerPoodle KillerPoodle wrote:

Actually Sir A - some crows were ready to get into the Consone war on the side of H? but we asked them to stay out to try to keep things fair numbers wise...

"W e have done and continue to do our best to stay out of wars."  

As I said we do our best to stay uninvolved just as H? does from what I have seen.  There was talk of the Crowfed joining in near the end when it seemed like it would never end but that was mostly hearsay as far as I know.  I can tell you that when the conflict first began we had a leadership meeting and agreed unanimously that we would stay out of it and we encouraged our members not to say anything about either side in GC but if they simply could not resist we told them to make it clear that their statements were their own and not the official stance of the Crowfed.  Either way we did not get involved so there is that.  

That being said, do you think the Crowfed is a threat to H? or any other alliance in Illyriad and if so, why?  Examples of Crows bullying would be great.  
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To be fair, there were people within Crow, much like the rest of Illy, some who favored Consone and some who favored H?, I do not think there was a consensus either way, especially given the greatly divergent views within the various wings. both KP's perspective and Sir A's are correct likely based on those with whom they had the most connection . . .  it is nearly impossible to paint the crowfed with a single brush . . .
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He didn't say anyone was bullying. He implied that Crowfed's size and play style are stifling PvP warfare in Illyriad. I think the time investment and community sentiment have more to do with the absence of constant war than any organized snuggle brigade. Even though the community might frown upon wars, that hasn't stopped a bunch of alliances from punching each other senseless this year.
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Originally posted by Brandmeister Brandmeister wrote:

He didn't say anyone was bullying. He implied that Crowfed's size and play style are stifling PvP warfare in Illyriad. I think the time investment and community sentiment have more to do with the absence of constant war than any organized snuggle brigade. Even though the community might frown upon wars, that hasn't stopped a bunch of alliances from punching each other senseless this year.

How is the Crowfed stifling PvP warfare in Illyriad?  As I've said before we do not interfere in other alliances' wars so any alliance can fight any non-Crow alliance and we will not interfere or judge them.  The best example is probably the recent Consone war.  Could we have joined either side? Yes.  But we stayed out.  There have been countless wars since Illyriad started and not once has the Crowfed jumped in.  So I don't see why people think we are the Illy Police (we are more like the U.N. Tongue) or how the Crowfed is preventing PvP from happening.  

The only thing the existence of the Crowfed might be discouraging is PvP warfare vs Crow alliances.  But we are a loose confederation so that does not necessarily mean that if an alliance attacks a Crow alliance the entire Confed would declare on that alliance.  We really do deal farily with diplomatic issues.  Which by definition makes us a defensive Confederation.  I think large Confederations actually add more complexity to the political environment in Elgea.  And of course there are more Confederations out there than just the Crowfed.  Unfortunately most of them choose to remain 'secret' until something happens.  
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Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:

 There was talk of the Crowfed joining in near the end when it seemed like it would never end but that was mostly hearsay as far as I know.


Um, no again.  There is no hearsay about it, it is a fact.

Originally posted by Le Roux Le Roux wrote:

it is nearly impossible to paint the crowfed with a single brush . . .


That may be true, however many folk in this thread seem to be speaking on behalf of the entire crowalition ("The crowfed does this" , "the crowfed did that") and in that context they are painting themselves with a single brush.
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Points: 2396 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Oct 2013 at 15:46
Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:

How is the Crowfed stifling PvP warfare in Illyriad?

You'd have to ask the people proposing that idea.
Originally posted by Sir A Sir A wrote:

As I've said before we do not interfere in other alliances' wars so any alliance can fight any non-Crow alliance and we will not interfere or judge them.

Sir A, this entire thread exists because a crow alliance has declared war on a non-crow alliance. uCrow was allied with the Celtic Knights, and has voluntarily entered their war with the Night Crusaders. uCrow declared war after a very heated verbal exchange between Tamaeon and Sir Bradly several days ago.

I fully support the right of every alliance to fight on behalf of their friends. I don't know why any alliance, including Crow alliances, would apologize for that.
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