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KP, I don't think the post was necessary but well done for putting H's opinion up. Agreed you will get plenty of feedback both positive and negative and all will be irrelevant. Some of your information I have doubts on but there is no need to pursue all of it, this war will rage until there is a victor regardless. I just want to point out that there was at least 1 alliance that stood by Valar when the time came. Prisoners of Society backed their confed Valar, our troops were sent at H siege camps and the result is now history. We are on different sides and naturally there will be little agreement between our viewpoints, you should know enough about me by now to know that I take whatever happens all with a grain of salt, there is enough evidence of that in the old Valar War forums if anyone wants to educate themselves. I am not a H hater, I am envious of your standing and play the game as a competitor but also appreciative at the same time, I would have joined H long ago if I wanted an easy ride but that to me is pointless. All the best for better or worse and see you in the trenches.

Mr Damage wrote: I just want to point out that there was at least 1 alliance that stood by Valar when the time came. Prisoners of Society backed their confed Valar, our troops were sent at H siege camps and the result is now history.

I stand corrected - thanks for reminding me.  As I mentioned - there's been a lot of history to try to keep track of.

KP

Daunt wrote: Thanks for writing this. I've wondered what was going through H's head. I disagree with a lot of what you wrote being that I belong to a fairly peaceful guild (in Consone) but at least now I can see why a military guild would view Consone as a threat.

 Are you Daunting in WE?  

KillerPoodle wrote: Mr Damage wrote: I just want to point out that there was at least 1 alliance that stood by Valar when the time came. Prisoners of Society backed their confed Valar, our troops were sent at H siege camps and the result is now history. I stand corrected - thanks for reminding me.  As I mentioned - there's been a lot of history to try to keep track of. KP

Yes, PoS was there for Valar.  I do miss BecBlue.  When the war was going on, she came to me asking what I thought she should do.  I was still in {P A} back then, but I told her that she should do the honorable thing and aid her confederates in their time of need...  We both knew what that meant, but it was the right thing to do.  I believe your alliance (PoS) limited their involvement to reinforcing and breaking sieges only.  

Edited by SunStorm - 15 Oct 2012 at 08:28

The following post is just my personal view and got nothing to do with the official policy of Victrix (my alliance):

When I got to Illy roughly one and a half year ago I did not know that the game would be so different from the games I played before (Die Stämme, engl. The Tribes, and Grepolis) so I was pretty much surprised but still cautious and accepted the first invitation to join an alliance (Victrix) and immediately resettled to Larn. Cautious I denied further help from the then training alliance of Invictus and began to build up my towns entirely by farming the ress for myself. I did the maximum number of quests every day to get every ressource I could gather. Then after my first tourney (collecting animal parts) I got into Invictus.

Now there is the reason for this post. While in Invictus I never had any bad experience with our leadership concerning agression vs other alliances. I got of course after starting to cast buffs on random people the sole bad experience with H? who according to Jasche threatened Invictus with war because I was operating three then non-enhanced buffs on StJude's towns. I still think any alliance has no say in the matter who might play this game and who might not. StJude might have been an idiot but since the destruction of a city undoes the work of months in a few days he would have learned his lesson. H? did seem to me to unbalanced in their judgements and completely tyrannic to bully Invictus because they could.

Aside from tansiraine I never met someone friendly or not acting aloof from H? so my opinion stayed posed against them. Likewise I never experienced someone saying anything bad about Invictus and I was quite active in GC where a number of people had their say about quite a number of alliances. Even on this forum I never read so much negative statements until after Consone was founded.

The funniest thing about Consone is for me that Invictus' leadership asked me to relocate to Victrix for alliance restructiering and Victrix decided afterwards they did not want to become part of Consone. Afterwards I had to work more so I logged in only once per day or every two days to issue building and research orders. Now I got a cold and hence more time.

In all of my time in Invictus (about a year) I never experienced the leadership anything else but fair, just and friendly towards anyone in this game. This is why I refuse to believe Invictus had any bad intention in this conflict. If there are evil designs in Consone they come from the limited communication and control mechanisms to hold 11 alliances in line.

I admit that I am not very active in diplomacy - and military - in this game. I prefer to build my cities and cast geomancer spells while trying to get the heart of corruption for myself. So there are for sure many things I will not get.

And one thing I will never get: Where is the fun in ganging upon smaller or peaceful player? I believe the wargame faction seeks to eliminate those who want to experience the difference in Illy in peace. Destruction is allways easier than creation. I would prefer warmonger to war among them and let us non-agressive players in peace. For me this whole conflict is constructed from the start - and I don't care anymore by whom and why.


If it is any help I would pay for the mine in question and rent it for a year.