soon no more anti war crying

gameplayer wrote: of course there is no need for training alliances on broken lances with the protected area.

pardon?  a good training alliance does considerably more than protect its members.  new players will still need to learn the game.

Brids17 wrote: DeathDealer89 wrote: Or Broken Lands will be populated by mostly the same people that populated Elgea.  So why wouldn't the same anti-war stance have been brought over to there? Because unlike Elgea you are choosing to place your cities in a pvp zone.

 

i chose to place my cities in a pvp zone when i joined illyriad instead of some other game.  it was not because i was seeking pvp.

Llyr wrote: Once Broken Lands has enough new players who aren't in Elgea as well, they'll have their own alliances and their own wars. Not everyone will want to play in both.

new players will adapt to the status quo, whatever that will be.  they will join established alliances and adapt to alliance policies.  if war is somehow more common in the broken lands, it will be even less likely that new alliances challenging the status quo will survive to do so.  the reason change does not happen often in Elgea is not because we lack new players, it's because we lack new players who both desire change and can last long enough in the existing system to play a significant role in changing it.

geofrey wrote: Broken Lands will give new and small players a chance to start fresh at ground 0 with everyone else.

allies are the most important asset in the game.  new players will not have them.  players coming from Elgea will, and will already know the game.  there is no level playing field.

geofrey wrote: The Broken Lands will end up being a safe Haven from the larger intimidating alliances of Elgea. The result will be only established military alliances will be left in Elgea.

i am assuming here that the crows have suddenly become intimidating, because i can hardly see them pulling out of Elgea.  and if one is intimidated by the crows, what are one's odds in this new free-for-all?  ;)

bansisdead wrote: Whilst we have GC mob rule, we will be stuck with anti-war crying.

if gc ruled anything, H? would have had to manage its PR much better than it has.  the rule of Elgea is on the map, not in the chat room.

bansisdead wrote: I had an incident with a player who has just left the game, they murdered some of my orclings harvesters, but when I approached them on this issue they became very defensive and aggressive, too the point of being rude, they offered no apology and instead ran to GC and demanded BSHx give her an apology.

 

you think this will be better when she can do this from a protected zone in which her cities are inviolate?  you are an optimist indeed.

Brids17 wrote: I this people are missing the entire point of the broken lands. Why would the devs put all this time and effort into building an entirely separate world just for it to play out exactly like Elgea? It would be much easier to simply expand the current map if they wanted to make it less crowded. Having and pvp and non-pvp zone is extremely clear they wanted to encourage pvp in said zone and discourage it (or rather, disallow it) it the other zone.

 

with all the time and effort the devs have spent, they have created two areas, one of which operates under restrictions to PvP...and the other which operates under exactly the same rules as Elgea.  it is not at all clear to me that they are doing anything but trying to provide a protected space for players who want a civ-style building game and feel that their prestige should buy them something that other players cannot take away.  what happens in the rest of the realm, as in Elgea, will be up to us, gameplayer's newly-recruited evonites, and whatever trolls discover that Virten will offer them a sanctuary from which to make things unpleasant for others without fear of reprisal.