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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 05:18
Originally posted by Ander Ander wrote:

Originally posted by Silverlake Silverlake wrote:

... is it honorable, to:

1.  Siege a member of the alliance you are at war with, even though they have not attacked, nor have they sent diplomats against your alliance?  They have not participated at all.

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Thes Hunter did not attack or diplo anyone. She inquired about the H policy on such matters when she was sieged. How many cities did she lose?

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I lost 4.5. The 0.5 is for San Yerivf who was the initial siege. Before this attack on San, I had never been Leadership in EE, never diplo'd, blighted, attacked, or farted in the direction of any H member.

Afterward, that was another story.  Wink

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 05:49
Originally posted by Anjire Anjire wrote:

A few points:

1) I don't believe this should have been aired in public.
2) While I appreciate the attempt to give me yet more credit for successful sieges, the game merely signed me as the "in charge" commander due to having the oldest commander there.  It was another member's engines that completed the siege for RHY against vty.  My siege armies were on the way to a different target but did not arrive before RHY was able to complete the raze. (http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/-501/-83).  I actually thought that my target city was exodus'd at first.  
3) Thes Hunter's actions prior to the war are a part of the many reasons that lead to H?'s response and determination.  

Anjire, would you care to elaborate what my actions were before the war that lead to H's "Response and determination"?

Because here are all the dealings I had with H prior to Mid-September:

1) Being a newbie, I landed a settler near an occupying army of Lloyrns. This was my third city, and I was very fresh from exodusing my Capital. I had missed the army when looking for sweetspots, and was unaware that Lloyrn was holding the spot. Lloyrn and HonoredMule gave me resources to relocate my City (San Yerivf), which I did.

2) I had asked many H members if it was ok for me to harvest basic resources on their sovereign land. Many said it was ok.

3) Soon after the New Trade resources came out, Lucens and I sent armies to the same unoccupied rare herb square. After some initial confusion, where I had thought I had been on the square first, I recalled my troops and allowed Lucens to take the Square. He then decided to settle a city within 10 squares of the then Si Wolfenstien. (Which was not near the herb square in question). Before the war, I had been told by Hath that Lucens had agreed to exodus his city away (Though he remains in that spot).

4) Deathdealer and I bumped each other from some harvesting spots. Interestingly, Deathdealer repeatedly sent his harvesters to the same spot 5 minutes before my harvesters landed, with impressive regularity. Such that I was thinking maybe I should send out some synchronized caravan dances to entertain him. Though this bumping was eliminated when I started parking armies on my kills. 

5) Mid August Kumo sent me 2 messaged titled "Move" and "Get Out" informing me that I had settled San Yerivf in an H hub and they would provide me resources to move. My alliance leader Hath messaged him back asking why I was being asked to move a city that wasn't within 10 squares of any of their cities, and that I had already moved this city for them once before (3 months prior). Kumo messaged back saying "I recounted, it's outside of ten". So seemed to me, problem 'solved'.

Mid September, I begun getting my cotters killed, and other annoyance attacks. I shrugged them off, but one time Empress Olivia killed off an army I had overlooking my elemental kill until my skinners could get there. I asked in GC what was up with that, and got Kumo ranting about how I spammed my cities all over their area. (I can provide the log if anyone is interested) but basically that I had used their 10 square rule against them (Since I had never settled within 10 squares of any of their cities), and the only reason that I would have settled in Azura was it was a Consone conspiracy to push H out. 

For the record, I had all my cities settled before I had even known what Consone was. And after Trade V.2 came out, I was now very interested in having cities anywhere but Azura.

So, There's what I know about my own involvement in inciting H to war. I personally am not seeing much, but heck, I could be missing something. Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 06:12
Regarding Thes's cities:

** mod edit to remove private messages/chat logs **

Edited by GM Luna - 30 Dec 2012 at 16:35
"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 06:23
In addition:

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Victorious defense by Aradil's forces at Square -431|-613 under attack by Thes Hunter's forces from Yi Thessila
Sent By: System
Date: 29 Oct 2012 07:05


This happened before any siege on Thes. So your claims about not being active in the war are (as per usual) lies.




Edited by KillerPoodle - 30 Dec 2012 at 06:24
"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 06:40
KP nice out of context quote from our Alliance Chat. To give time, and context, that was said (I believe) after H had razed 2 of my cities (and actively sieging another) and Kumo had sent a message to Hath asking him why I hadn't exodused all of my cities from Azura. (I remember telling him to shove it.)

So me saying that after the war had been in full gear for quite some time, makes your point how exactly?

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As for the 'lie', Umm... I was posting on this forum about San Yerivf being attacked on Oct 19th. So how does an attack I sent 10 days after an attack on my city is any sort of lie?

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I must admit, I wait with baited breath for your answers. You have truly stoked the fires of my curiosity.


Edited by Thes Hunter - 30 Dec 2012 at 07:19
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 07:00
do not even know why oi am doing this but the Eagles declared war on H? on the 13th of October, if Thes attacked someone after 16 days of war, whats his problem, or is this part of H? honour code, " Do what i say, not what i do"

PS if we cannot quote IGM's in the forums, i consider poor form that you get our AC chat published in here, we know you have a spy, stop being smug about it!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 11:07
The issue of Rhea has been resolved. And if an issue, then just a misunderstanding.

H? bears no ill will towards consome and we are genuinely appreciative that your response was compassionate and understanding.

Lets not please bicker about small matters in points scoring and let this thread be put to rest.

Thank you.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 12:03
this involves some real life issue. maybe we should end this. hugssssssssssssss
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 12:47
Originally posted by Llyorn Of Jaensch Llyorn Of Jaensch wrote:

The issue of Rhea has been resolved. And if an issue, then just a misunderstanding.

H? bears no ill will towards consome and we are genuinely appreciative that your response was compassionate and understanding.

Lets not please bicker about small matters in points scoring and let this thread be put to rest.

Thank you.


LoJ, you 've missed a small detail here...it was H? who started this discussion
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 30 Dec 2012 at 13:06

Enough! All of you. I hope I never see another thread that takes the personal circumstances of a player's bereavement and then airs it in the forum in their absence. Enough!

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