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I dont think Shark ever mentioned 1vs1 fight , it was Sin that did that...
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Originally posted by abstractdream abstractdream wrote:

Originally posted by Dungshoveleux Dungshoveleux wrote:

I do not ever believe that wars are 1:1.
A great deal goes on behind the scenes with "help".
I don't necessarily have evidence this time, but saw enough in round 1 to convince me of this assertion.
...round 1? Like this: 

[UPDATED] TVM-Intercepted Vans at Campagnolo Siege Reveal Pico’s Alt Supplied City From MOON??

Not only did MOON help SHARK (though, apparently without their knowledge and admittedly, they did the right thing and asked LePue to go) but so did SHRKr. I'm convinced SHARK believes they should be able to do anything they want and are surprised when called on it (verbally or otherwise).


      I'd like to point out it wasn't MOON helping SHARK in that instance it was a guest of the alliance, who joined a couple days before his alts/mains alliance was declared on supplying his alliance. 

      I have no intention of bickering about right/wrong and who did what on here. I simply felt the need to reassert that MOON (its permanent members and as an alliance) had nothing to do with those res being sent and intends to remain completely neutral in any way through this and future conflicts. We are here to teach noobs how to be less noob-like, that instance was a good learning tool of what not to do Smile   


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Originally posted by Lotharblack Lotharblack wrote:

I dont think Shark ever mentioned 1vs1 fight , it was Sin that did that...


Yes indeed Lotharblack, apparently 85 players with 821 cities can't manage 37 players with 265 cities on their own.
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so here comes the help VIC declared on SIN . who said SHARK don't need allies to defeat SIN ?
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/me grabs more popcorn and beer..

Its never been an illyriad tradition to do a 1vs1 fight. 

If I were you sit tight and chill. :)  LOL
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Yeah, it's unclear to me why SIN didn't expect SHARK's allies to immediately declare war on them.  That seems like a no-brainer.   
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It is also unclear to me why people assume that VIC declared because SHARK asked them, simple use of the map shows em not only having a large cluster next to Newlands but also close to Fellandire as well, so maybe it makes perfect sense to them as an alliance not only to show to their confeds support but other strategic play as well may be in play. I am only pointing out other valid reasons not stating it is so.
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Looks like Shark declined SIN's challenge to a one on one; strategic or not it makes them look bad since they don't believe they can win. Or they rather not take their chances. 
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Was it ever a 1:1?
Whilst there have been substantial "re-organisations" of people aligned against SHARK, I don't see significant changes in SHARK itself.
That said, it isn't a 1:1.  The initial SIN 1:1 declaration was, in my opinion, just words designed to make them "look" more like David vs Goliath.   
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Originally posted by Dungshoveleux Dungshoveleux wrote:

Was it ever a 1:1?
Whilst there have been substantial "re-organisations" of people aligned against SHARK, I don't see significant changes in SHARK itself.
That said, it isn't a 1:1.  The initial SIN 1:1 declaration was, in my opinion, just words designed to make them "look" more like David vs Goliath.   
Shark is significantly larger than SIN, so it's understanding why SIN would do that before the war declaration. SIN was able to reorganize to increase their numbers because they're not as large whereas Shark does not have to(They could of had members from VIC just to fill up few the remaining spaces, but they rather have the whole alliance involved as it goes to show). Again, having VIC join in on the havoc clearly shows that Shark fears that they won't be able to defend their territories without even more firepower than they already have available. So in a way, it was a 1 on 1 that was declined.  


Edited by Jax - 09 Nov 2015 at 15:22
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