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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote asr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 16:32
Originally posted by Angrim Angrim wrote:

Originally posted by asr asr wrote:

I vote against Sin. I prefer liberal alliances.
tempted as i am to ask for elaboration of this seeming political reference...nah. there is no vote.

Not through speeches and majority decisions will the great questions of the day be decided...but by iron and blood.  --Otto von Bismarck

There is only one me, but i'm sure there is lots of people who think like me without themselves knowing it.
So i'm very confident in myself. I don't need weapons.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote asr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 16:39
Originally posted by mjc2 mjc2 wrote:

Originally posted by asr asr wrote:

Originally posted by Pellinell Pellinell wrote:

asr, I am indeed blood thirsty, I do support Sin and will be watching the war closely.
However as I, Mano and mjol have stated numerous times we aren't getting involved at this time. Nor do we have plans to do so.

   Any time you feel my time has come, feel free to replace your skirt with armor and come find me. Until then keep to cheer leading your bully boy buddies and refrain from threatening me.

If it comes to the top ruling alliance in illy then i don't see that Sin would be the best candidate. I subscribe some other alliance.
If Sin will win, it is bad for illy. 

I vote against Sin. I prefer liberal alliances.


if SIN wins, i dont think that would prove they are the top alliance in Illy, the top alliance in BL yes, but not illy as a whole

Yeah but imagine how many try to copy paste their style. 
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote mjc2 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 17:18
Originally posted by asr asr wrote:

Originally posted by mjc2 mjc2 wrote:

Originally posted by asr asr wrote:

Originally posted by Pellinell Pellinell wrote:

asr, I am indeed blood thirsty, I do support Sin and will be watching the war closely.
However as I, Mano and mjol have stated numerous times we aren't getting involved at this time. Nor do we have plans to do so.

   Any time you feel my time has come, feel free to replace your skirt with armor and come find me. Until then keep to cheer leading your bully boy buddies and refrain from threatening me.

If it comes to the top ruling alliance in illy then i don't see that Sin would be the best candidate. I subscribe some other alliance.
If Sin will win, it is bad for illy. 

I vote against Sin. I prefer liberal alliances.


if SIN wins, i dont think that would prove they are the top alliance in Illy, the top alliance in BL yes, but not illy as a whole

Yeah but imagine how many try to copy paste their style. 

if enough do then ya the game has evolved, but hey that is the nature of MMOs you cant stop change simply because you dont like it, you need to get enough people that want to play the way you do to keep/change the game the way you want to
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote asr Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 18:57
drama is over, nothing to talk here anymore on that front.

Yeah. I agree that point that can't change the game without having general opinion backing it up. If you have a game with warmongers you will likely find a dead server. So far game still on! i guess i'm happy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Pellinell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 20:31
   Wait, first of all Shark moved into BL with stated goal of establishing a military presence, while refusing to recognize the local alliances rules for settlement. Shark is very much a foreign invader who's goal has been to exert their beliefs on the local population through warfare.
   Secondly Vic has no stated reason for declaring.

   Yet when sin stands up to these invaders they are the warmonger ?
I'm not sure you know what a warmonger is, as it's quite clear Shark is the aggressor here.
   
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Is it really necessary to use disagreeable terms to describe each side? Aggressor, bully, conspirators, pile on, warmonger. Both parties in this war have acknowledged that the central Broken Lands are valuable to their respective alliance strategies. Whoever controls the Newlands and adjacent regions will be a major force in all future wars and tournament outcomes. Trivium and its allies sought to establish control of the region through a land claim, Shark intentionally thwarted that claim, and now their conflict is continuing. Other alliances like Invictus are trying to sway the outcome in their own favor. There is nothing especially surprising about any of this.

The interplay of lands and adversaries is the central theme of the sandbox. They are all playing the game of empires as it is meant to be played. I realize that the forum meta-game is part of the sandbox, but it is tiresome that all significant conflicts in this game must devolve into trollish name calling on the forums and in general chat. There is nothing wrong with treating your opponents with respect in a game, even if you are at strategic odds. Civility amid duress is the very definition of sportsmanship.

Maybe we could just observe the war with competitive enthusiasm, minus the disagreeable terms and sad violins.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Pellinell Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Nov 2015 at 21:28
How exactly are facts disagreeable terms ? They are very much aggressors, invaders by the very definition of the words.

Had they wanted to be viewed in a more positive light than that's the path they should have taken.
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Originally posted by Pellinell Pellinell wrote:

   Wait, first of all Shark moved into BL with stated goal of establishing a military presence, while refusing to recognize the local alliances rules for settlement. Shark is very much a foreign invader who's goal has been to exert their beliefs on the local population through warfare.
   Secondly Vic has no stated reason for declaring.

   Yet when sin stands up to these invaders they are the warmonger ?
I'm not sure you know what a warmonger is, as it's quite clear Shark is the aggressor here.
   

Both alliances are dirty. I was voting from two bad choices the best.

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