Scrawny Wolf Diplo Unit

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         For too long, Tier 3 items have been safe from destruction! If you have rare herbs, animal parts or rare minerals in your town, nothing can destroy them! This must change and here's how:
        
        
         

        Orcs sometimes get scrawny wolves as a quest reward but they are fairly pathetic as units go so I'd like to propose an alternative use; make them a diplo unit. Of course, the other races would need an equivalent. Elves could have foxes, humans could have dogs and dwarves could have goats.
        
         

        
        
         As units, their purpose would be to destroy items in towns. Specifically, they could destroy the stuff that thieves can't such as livestock, horses and harvested items. I think that there should be 2 tiers of these units. Tier 1 units would be able to destroy livestock, horses and basic herbs, hides and minerals whilst Tier 2 ones would be able to destroy rare herbs, minerals and animal parts as well.
        
        
         

        
        
         Each race could also have units which have their own specific strengths/weaknesses
        
        
         

        
        
         Orcish Unit Names:
        
        
         T1: Scrawny Wolf
        
        
         T2: Trained Wolf
        
        
         

        
        
         Advantage: Can destroy more if successful
        
        
         Disadvantage: More easily detected (lower attack)
        
        
         

        
        
         Elvish Unit Names:
        
        
         T1: Gaunt Fox
        
        
         T2: Smart Fox
        
        
         

        
        
         Advantage: Faster travel speed
        
        
         Disadvantage: Poor defence
        
        
         

        
        
         Human Unit Names:
        
        
         T1: Stray Dog
        
        
         T2: Large Hound
        
        
         

        
        
         Advantage: Less easily detected (higher attack)
        
        
         Disadvantage: Low travel speed
        
        
         

        
        
         Dwarf Unit Names:
        
        
         T1: Skeletal Goat
        
        
         T2: Cunning Goat
        
        
         

        
        
         Advantage: High Defense
        
        
         Disadvantage: Less Destructive

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eowan the short Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster Joined: 03 Jan 2016 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 937	Post Options Post Reply Quote eowan the short Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Topic: Scrawny Wolf Diplo Unit Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 22:36
	For too long, Tier 3 items have been safe from destruction! If you have rare herbs, animal parts or rare minerals in your town, nothing can destroy them! This must change and here's how: Orcs sometimes get scrawny wolves as a quest reward but they are fairly pathetic as units go so I'd like to propose an alternative use; make them a diplo unit. Of course, the other races would need an equivalent. Elves could have foxes, humans could have dogs and dwarves could have goats. As units, their purpose would be to destroy items in towns. Specifically, they could destroy the stuff that thieves can't such as livestock, horses and harvested items. I think that there should be 2 tiers of these units. Tier 1 units would be able to destroy livestock, horses and basic herbs, hides and minerals whilst Tier 2 ones would be able to destroy rare herbs, minerals and animal parts as well. Each race could also have units which have their own specific strengths/weaknesses Orcish Unit Names: T1: Scrawny Wolf T2: Trained Wolf Advantage: Can destroy more if successful Disadvantage: More easily detected (lower attack) Elvish Unit Names: T1: Gaunt Fox T2: Smart Fox Advantage: Faster travel speed Disadvantage: Poor defence Human Unit Names: T1: Stray Dog T2: Large Hound Advantage: Less easily detected (higher attack) Disadvantage: Low travel speed Dwarf Unit Names: T1: Skeletal Goat T2: Cunning Goat Advantage: High Defense Disadvantage: Less Destructive

Jejune Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Joined: 10 Feb 2013 Status: Offline Points: 1015	Post Options Post Reply Quote Jejune Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 22:42
	" Tier 3 items have been safe from destruction! If you have rare herbs, animal parts or rare minerals in your town, nothing can destroy them! This must change..." There's no need for a change to the game because SIN has developed a way to destroy T3 res in an enemy city. Raze the city.


eowan the short Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster Joined: 03 Jan 2016 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 937	Post Options Post Reply Quote eowan the short Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 22:44
	but razing takes time... and effort... and troops... Equally you could say that thieves are unnecessary as you should just capture towns.

Eresh Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Greenhorn Joined: 15 Apr 2017 Location: WV, USA Status: Offline Points: 64	Post Options Post Reply Quote Eresh Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 22:54
	I think this change would disproportionately hurt the crafter/harvester types, while the people with less to lose would be the ones more likely to utilize the unit lol.

Tensmoor Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Joined: 07 Apr 2015 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 1579	Post Options Post Reply Quote Tensmoor Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 23:00
	+1 Eresh

le Carré Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Poster Joined: 18 Jul 2017 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote le Carré Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 23:02
	Yes, but it's difficult (not random, but also not an every day event) to get the scrawny wolf units at the moment. There's no reason that has to change, it should be as difficult to train them as it is difficult to craft the items they can affect.

eowan the short Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster Joined: 03 Jan 2016 Location: UK Status: Offline Points: 937	Post Options Post Reply Quote eowan the short Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 18 Jul 2017 at 23:13
	The crafter/harvester types could build defensive forces by questing (which would finally have a purpose) just as easily as an attacker or store their stuff in hubs. Anyway, surely they already have these sorts of problems with thieves which are much easier to build and deploy to steal the things not covered by the scrawny wolf units.

le Carré Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Poster Joined: 18 Jul 2017 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote le Carré Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 00:58
	I really like the idea of this being a quest-based diplo thing. Born of quests and an advancement on the incentive to complete them?

le Carré Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Poster Joined: 18 Jul 2017 Location: US Status: Offline Points: 3	Post Options Post Reply Quote le Carré Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 19 Jul 2017 at 00:59
	Also, advanced crafters are certainly also powerful on the magic front. There would obviously be some defense there as there is from other diplo units.

Queen Bacet Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Poster Joined: 21 Aug 2017 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 17	Post Options Post Reply Quote Queen Bacet Report Post Thanks(0) Quote Reply Posted: 30 Sep 2017 at 13:12
	This does sound fun and adds an extra use for learning magic too. I quite like the quests but after a while, they do get boring as there is no real advantage in doing them. I thought the scrawny wolves would be good until i sent them out and they died instantly against a very low number of NPC's.