To clarify
Victrix isn't a training alliance.
I joined it a year ago and it wasn't a training alliance then, so I have no idea at what exact point it ceased to be one.
We are independent of Invictus and have been for nearly a year.
We also decided Consone wasn't for us, Victrix leadership prefer to be independent and deal with things ourselves.
However we have long historical confeds, since long before Consone was founded,with both Invictus and Absa.
As with Dlords coming into this fight to back H? due to long historical association with them...so us with Invictus and Absa.
Although we aren't an agressive alliance and have dealt with our diplomatic issues without pulling in the weight of anyone (whether Invictus or Consone or anyone else) to back us, we also won't be just "fair weather" friends any more than Dlords would be. If that means we get attacked then that's just the price we have to pay for old historical and well established diplomatic ties. We have no intention of instigating any aggressive moves.
In point of fact I also abhor the rude messages sent by Absa, however I also don't feel a few rude messages should cause a server wide war. This was a fight between RHY and Absa/SkB. Invictus didn't get involved until Absa towns were being mass sieged (over an insult??!) and breaking those sieges was sufficient provocation for H? to get involved and declare war on Invictus and Absa. I still don't see the logic of calling siege breaking an aggressive act but I'm sure if I went through all the posts in the multitude of threads on this subject someone would enlighten me...probably endlessly. I find it difficult to see how Invictus were the agressors in this.
In chronological order War was declared on Invictus and Absa first, by H? If Consone confederation then get involved...well what else were they supposed to do? Mutual defence is one of the main reasons for being in a confed.
Everything else being posted on this matter is pure supposition or paranoia about the "possible" future intention of various alliances and confederations, all of it posted with no proof of the allegations. This is happening on both sides of the argument and is getting very tedious as no one who isn't in the inner counsels on either side of the flame war, has any real idea of what that alliance or confederations long term goals are and is just speculating, using their own preconceived ideas and bias as the basis of allegation. I have no idea why people feel the need to do this - unless stirring the pot is fun for some.
Edited by Mahaut - 17 Oct 2012 at 14:09
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