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Poll Question: Should the devs remove the option to gift medals outside the alliance?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 2012 at 01:07
I'm not against gifts of inter-Alliance medals, but participation (in the giving of, and receipt of) medals should be on an 'opt-in, case-by-case basis', because it costs Prestige, which carries real-world monetary value (or cost). Players must never be coerced into to parting with their Prestige.

Every reasonable attempt should be made to avoid extortion, involving anything of real-world value.

If it's evident that a settlement was made, involving Prestige, then it's possible that someone was pushed into a reluctant choice of paying 'consequential damages'. If those damages have tangible monetary value, then we're in very uncomfortable territory.

This game has no 'give Prestige to player X' functionality, precisely to avoid a legal minefield. Let's not test the boundaries of this principle.

You cannot use the "free prestige" argument here.

(which argues that people receive free prestige every day, therefore it costs nothing to give Prestige, as medals). If you 'paid out' your 'free' Prestige on a compensation agreement, then you don't receive the benefit of that Prestige, and to receive that benefit you'd need to replace it, at a monetary cost.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 2012 at 01:57
Originally posted by GM Luna GM Luna wrote:

As I described earlier, no player can actually force anyone to spend any prestige on anything. No more than they can make me buy them a cupcake. They can say it, but they cannot make me do it. Not with game mechanics. There is nothing about medals that is pay to win. 

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If someone told you they had embarrassing photos of you in real life and said they'd spread them around your workplace if you didn't give them money, would that be acceptable? You could say no, they couldn't force you to give them money right? You would just have have extremely negative consequences that might result in you losing or quitting your job. 

Same thing here. They can wipe out all your cities, even siege and attack you non-stop until you either quit the game altogether or pay up. And the reason this is different then changing your city name or sending gold or advanced resources is because saddles don't pay the bills or buy you food. I shouldn't have to lose all by cities or be forced to quit a game because I can't afford to pay someone off using real money. The problem with this is that it's not just a gameplay mechanic, it's something that starts to get mixed into my real life money situation. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Jul 2012 at 02:15
And with that extremely offensive example directed at me, this discussion is finished. 

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