Remove Gifting Medals Outside Alliance

bansisdead wrote: When I started playing this game the only 'force' available was military attacks, diplo attacks et cetera, but there was was no real chance of financial lose.  Now force can have a real money price in game, the term force implies no choice, imo.

Unless you didn't count the money someone spent on building their cities up that you just torched... One could argue that would be financial loss, no?

Removing medal gifting outside alliances will not "solve the problem", it's quiet simple to go around it.

Muristie wrote: Kumomoto, it's a choice, and a risk, you take when purchasing prestige. Lacking the choice (thus- forced) to spend it, is a different thing. Removing medal gifting outside alliances will not "solve the problem", it's quiet simple to go around it. Drawing examples from other MMOs- correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't it forbidden to trade 'game items' for real money, in WoW for example? I think that in this case the GMs should interfere with an artificial, out of the game law. Isn't it the same as walking down a street and mugging someone? Sure, they have a choice, but in a case where it's a losing alliance vs. a winning alliance, they don't really have a choice other than the community [which in turn has lots of other motives rather than just fair play, nothing wrong with that]. In other games bullying is forbidden by the GMs {"give me xyz or I'll raid you" etc. }, to which I disagree.  I like the option to be able to bully someone's gold out of them, but when this becomes real money, that's just wrong.

invictusa wrote: A person can attain prestige via purchasing it with RL money.  Therefore all prestige is only attained by money.   Anyone can use prestige to purchase a medal for someone else.  Sometimes newbies will be visited by thieves because they are a typically easier target.  Therefore newbies will be forced to buy medals for other people.

So someone will thieve a newbie until they give in; then send them 500k gold so they can set up an alliance to award a medal? Sounds a bit round about and a medal doesn't give you any advantage in game.

Sieging and capturing someone's prestiged city is therefore sure a far worse crime? You've disadvantaged them, advantaged yourself and taken their money? Or is raising worse as you are just throwing away their hard work?

bansisdead wrote: geofrey wrote: If you don't think elvish archers are cool, ignore them. Or bite off their ears and wear them as medals, which is also cool.

Now you are thinking like a true Orc! Bravo!