Races

King EAM wrote: Kumomoto wrote: The other thing that Orcs have which is extremely beneficial is the best Spear units in the game  that can also be built, en masse, very, very cheaply... Indeed, all you need is one Spear and Beer and you have the best Spearmen. @TornSky: I do as well.

Redundant point... all races can do the same thing with their specilist unit. This perk is only useful in the first few days of the game for early orc rushes... which are far behind us.

Really elves have the best unit perks with the fastest cavalry (and other units generally) and extremely powerful bowmen which are the most versatile unit... humans come a close second with powerful knights and the fastest advanced bowmen for mounting quick and strong defences. After that orcs and dwarves are legions behind in terms of unit attribute perks.

Createure wrote: King EAM wrote: Kumomoto wrote: The other thing that Orcs have which is extremely beneficial is the best Spear units in the game  that can also be built, en masse, very, very cheaply... Indeed, all you need is one Spear and Beer and you have the best Spearmen. @TornSky: I do as well. Redundant point... all races can do the same thing with their specilist unit. This perk is only useful in the first few days of the game for early orc rushes... which are far behind us. Really elves have the best unit perks with the fastest cavalry (and other units generally) and extremely powerful bowmen which are the most versatile unit... humans come a close second with powerful knights and the fastest advanced bowmen for mounting quick and strong defences. After that orcs and dwarves are legions behind in terms of unit attribute perks.

I agree with Brids: I chose my race (Orc) before I knew the advantages of humans and elves, and I wouldn't have chosen them otherwise.

And FYI lorre: I probably possessed (before the tournament) the largest single orc spear army in the game... over 16k units from one city. The fact is for an advanced player the limiting factor (on 1 beer+1 weap specialists) is not the cost of the materials for production but the production time: which for basic spears is disproportionately high < yet another disadvantage for orcs.

infact the elvish basic bow (1 beer + 1 bow) has the same production time as as the orc basic spear... for a unit more than twice as powerful... in effect: elves can train an army twice as powerful as an orc army in the same time, and that's before we even start looking at advanced units.


Edited by Createure - 11 Jan 2011 at 11:16

Createure wrote: King EAM wrote: Kumomoto wrote: The other thing that Orcs have which is extremely beneficial is the best Spear units in the game  that can also be built, en masse, very, very cheaply... Indeed, all you need is one Spear and Beer and you have the best Spearmen. @TornSky: I do as well. Redundant point... all races can do the same thing with their specilist unit. This perk is only useful in the first few days of the game for early orc rushes... which are far behind us.

Not true. Human basic cavalry need saddles and Dwarven basic Infantry need Chainmail as well... So it's only the Elves and Orcs that have the ability to cheaply mass produce their basic specialist troops...

Edited by Kumomoto - 11 Jan 2011 at 15:18

Createure wrote: I agree with Brids: I chose my race (Orc) before I knew the advantages of humans and elves, and I wouldn't have chosen them otherwise. And FYI lorre: I probably possessed (before the tournament) the largest single orc spear army in the game... over 16k units from one city. The fact is for an advanced player the limiting factor (on 1 beer+1 weap specialists) is not the cost of the materials for production but the production time: which for basic spears is disproportionately high < yet another disadvantage for orcs. infact the elvish basic bow (1 beer + 1 bow) has the same production time as as the orc basic spear... for a unit more than twice as powerful... in effect: elves can train an army twice as powerful as an orc army in the same time, and that's before we even start looking at advanced units.