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Kumomoto 
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 Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 04:17 |
 Meagh wrote:
Kumomoto wrote:
So, imo, while Soup and The Coalition may feel strongly, my experience is that the general consensus of others is that it is a mildly annoying thing they just have to put up with (like monsoon season).
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yes.. most accept it for what it is.. Groups aren't forced to choose sides and if players don't want to be affected they don't have to be.. it seems an opt-in experience (and opt-out actually as I've not heard of anyone being sieged out of the game); those who want to be affected are while those who don't are not directly affected at all... and those traders who dabble are are profiting fro.. err enjoying the current situation aplenty... and despite all the strong feelings expressed in the forums and occasionally on chat it makes for very interesting in-game news (or perhaps that's because of the strong feelings?). - M.
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You make an incredibly important observation. It IS an "opt-in, opt-out" war. No one has been sieged out of the game. Period. No one has had such onerous surrender terms placed upon them that they have been more than mildly set back.
All of the chicken little nonsense about the destruction of accounts and hordes of folks fleeing the war and quitting the game is pure spin and drivel. It has, actually been a really focused war. And some people don't like the results, so they bring their whole "give peace a chance" mantra to GC and the Forums (with the help of some thiRd parties). All of it is nonsense. The war is progressing nicely. Soup isn't close to folding militarily. And we hope they don't. We are enjoying ourselves immensely. They might not be, but they can stop it instantly by accepting our terms, so there is no real issue here besides the pride of the Soup Leadership. That is, unless the Soup rank and file wish to continue, in which case, we are really delighted to give chase.
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twilights
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 12:29 |
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its seems this is a war game that for some reason a few vocal people are trying to make it into something else. even trade can be consider conflict, the exchange of items given game value. the game needs to attract new people to play or else it gets stale. hopefully this war attracts more aggressive type players to illyriad and with the addition of a non pvp zone in the expansion there will be no reason for the trolling verbal behavior of people trying to control play of the game. the war is bringing in a new type of player but all players are welcome here. war should be a welcome part of playing the game....back to making armies and crafting weapons...hopefully we get battle magic soon! geez, i play one war account and one peace account......hint hint
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Deranzin
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 14:41 |
Myr wrote:
For me the most fun is to try something new, see what works and doesn't work, then adjust and try again. The quality of my cities is improving because with each attack I receive I'm motivated to have better defense next time. Naturally, the quality of my attacks are improving as well.  I have a list of changes I want to make to my cities when the war is over and they will really optimize the strengths of each cities location. I can hardly wait!
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On a personal note this is the positive effect that predominates in the war. Others are the chance to meet other alliances in the fields and see how they work, how other players set their defences and generally test what works and what is sub-optimal.
In general this war has:
- Made trader players rich and helped move the coin and the goods around.
- Gave some meaning to the new T3 items, else they might have gone to almost total disuse.
- Pushed more and more people from lethargy to activity and in generally gave exciting moments to many players.
- Made people be motivated to create the best town they can.
- Redistributed troops by frequent use and repaterning of def/off and objectives
- Made everyone involved win XP for the next tournament
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geofrey
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 15:17 |
in my opinion the following positive effects have been felt:
- More players getting to know each other through combat (I finally got to play with the BSH)
- Prestige spend increase (Combat bonuses, anti-sieging process) that will push devs harder.
- Some players/alliance showing their true colors. Makes it clear what their intentions are.
- Geography is now a HUGE consideration in alliance planning/recruitment.
- Most importantly, is that territorial lines have been drawn. Coalition seems to be flocking to the west, Consone seems to be taking the east. This has the added benefit of either prolonging the war indefinetly, or setting up a new war to occur once peace terms are agreed.
- Reduced Alliance participation in future tournament. H? has proven how detrimental it can be to participate in tournaments. Allowing smaller alliances a larger chance at winning tournaments.
It's clear Coalition is winning the morale war. Consone alliances are all looking to end the war. But I believe circumstances are being setup for a much larger war to occur in the future. Only through negotiation will true peace occur, and The Dude has hinted that it isn't a possibility. Most likely Consone will be forced to agree to Coalition demands, just like the vocal minority of the senate was forced to agree to Emperor Palpatines new Empire... but give it time and a rebellion will occur.
Edited by geofrey - 14 Feb 2013 at 15:23
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KillerPoodle
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 15:25 |
geofrey wrote:
Most likely Consone will be forced to agree to Coalition demands, just like the vocal minority of the senate was forced to agree to Emperor Palpatines new Empire... but give it time and a rebellion will occur. |
Actually dude - you guys are the Empire, we're the rebellion and Kumo makes a great Princess Leia.
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Elmindra
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 15:32 |
Geography, geography, and oh geography. Did I mention geography?
Seriously though, we have seen a mass migration from quite a few members after the start of the war. Alliances that could find themselves in a war situation had best learn from Consone mistakes (and to a certain extent Coal). If you are not geographically localized and secure you WILL lose towns, and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it. I razed a town and watched as hundreds of prestige was spent, but due to how isolated it was there was no hope of rescue.
New confeds have been formed or have grown in size primarily because of this. I think a good example is the Dark Star Dominion, who in my opinion may be one of the most powerful confeds in the game simply because of their geographical location and density. No longer can an alliance or confederation of alliances be spread willy nilly all over Illyriad. Weather or not this leads to a future war with regional battle lines drawn is another debate, but it could lead to some interesting times once TBL is released.
Oh, and we learned that walls mean jack.
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 15:35 |
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You've got the Empire and Rebellion reversed, Geofrey. It was Consone that was the uber mega coalition that outnumbered the next largest coalition by a huge degree. It was The Coalition who stood up to them despite being vastly outnumbered. The fact that we are winning is proof positive that quality will always trump quantity. Any portrayal otherwise not only ignores the statistical facts (go look up the relative population sizes when this war started), but also ignores the fact that Consone is losing because they have fought worse than us. Plain and simple. If they had fought better, we'd be losing.
And is saying that you are itching to fight again soon conducive to lenient surrender terms? Really?
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geofrey
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 15:35 |
KillerPoodle wrote:
geofrey wrote:
Most likely Consone will be forced to agree to Coalition demands, just like the vocal minority of the senate was forced to agree to Emperor Palpatines new Empire... but give it time and a rebellion will occur. |
Actually dude - you guys are the Empire, we're the rebellion and Kumo makes a great Princess Leia.
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Dibbs on Chewie.
Also I don't want to de-rail the OP, so feel free to sen dme in-game mail on anything i posted outside of the original topic.
Edited by geofrey - 14 Feb 2013 at 15:55
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Kumomoto
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 15:36 |
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I always have had a thing for those side hair buns... but does that make you Jabba the Hut, KP?
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Darkwords
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Posted: 14 Feb 2013 at 16:14 |
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Surely its more Obi Wun Kumo-Be
and not to forget KP3-0 of course
Edited by Darkwords - 14 Feb 2013 at 16:16
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