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    Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 17:31
Forgive me for creating new topic on same subject, I want to use same privilege as RHY Press office had in securing first page, so my words wont get lost in that weed they planted. Hope Luna will close it before growing into 50 pages...

Every war have a uzrok and povod ( motiv in english, I found one word for both, but is not the same), forgive my poor English...

 I'll try to explain past events as  Absa and Boars see it happened:




There were several examples when RHY cried foul if SkB even approached one of their occupied squares even if it is dozens of squares from their nearest city.
Unlike them Boars remained sympathetic to Rhyagelle's desire to secure access to sources of rare resources. If the recovery of the land they consider rightfully theirs proceeded peacefully, SkB intended to prove their  alliance's generosity through negotiations.

Since we are their friends and had tiffs with RHY too, SkB asked for a concerted diplomatic effort by both of our alliances to let RHY know that their behaviour is unacceptable. They were getting the feeling that RHY is trying to take advantage of them as a smaller alliance, and if we both confront them it might get better results.


On 6th Aug we heard from Alti that Deimos (RHY) was occupying two squares immediately adjacent to smaller towns in their alliance. SkB began talks, and were essentially breaking them off because they thought they add legitimacy to the occupations, The step following this is the dramatic one of claiming that they will have troops arriving at a certain time - recall troops before then. Policy of accepting such an occupation is inviting future abuse. O pinion has hardened against the time-sharing proposal, on the grounds that the current occupations were
illegitimate and rotating occupations likewise.

Latest events prior to escalation:

On 11th Aug  negotiations  have switched from being between Yearick and Alti to Finrod and Buridan. Finrod had emphasised that he wants RHY and SkB to get along well as neighbours, and expressed exasperation at the whole rare resources debacle.

On 17th Aug we heard  that Alti is still in negotiations    with Finrod over the grapes outside her town.

On 18th Aug Alti told me  that Finord is around and still reasonable, but he's tied up with RL. She was negotiating with Deimos and Yearick, when she issued a sort of ultimatum, Finrod was roused and discussions started to go somewhere. She proposed a reciprocal rule saying that SkB wont settle in the 5x5 square centered around any of their sovs, and they agreed to respect their 7 square rule.
 

Then on 19th Sep we received update from Buridan about 
another incident of aggression by RHY in putting armies on mines near their cities. In this case Jefke had occupied a mine for quite some time and was away for a couple of days when the army returned to its city. Deimos, as usual, jumped at the opportunity to occupy the square:

Information Gathered:

Harvestable Resource Square Information:
2500 Iron remain.
Harvestable Resource Square Information:
63 6 remain.

Troop levels present, foreign reinforcements:
Type: Unit: Quantity:
Deimos's forces from Minas Mukchuk
Army: Siege Corps
Division: Demolition Men
Commander: Mystery Orc?? Death Pack 1
Troops: Kobold Cohorts 370
Troops: Clan Guardsmen 370
Troops: Death Dealers 369
dave83's forces from Valles Marineris
Army: Resource Procurers
Division: It was vacant when i sent them
Commander: Sir Roger Valles Charioteer 1
Troops: Militiamen 500
Troops: Pikemen 672
Troops: Longbowmen 699
Troops: Men-at-Arms 205



Jefke felt frustrated by this and as latest scout report showed only about 2-3k troops on the square.
On 20th Aug expediton from Westley in Turalia was sent from Messer's account and RHY leadership was informed. Same daywe received we received update from Buridan:

"RHY's leadership has decided that Deimos should give the mine back to Jefke so there isn't any immediate cause for conflict."



 They lost on 25th


Attackers: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Commander: Oxymorphone Charioteers Charioteer 1 Damaged for 100, 0 health remains.
Troops: Charioteers Charioteers 3000 3000 0
Troops: Militiamen Militiamen 100 100 0


Despite your troops' defeat, word reaches you concerning the defenders' forces in this battle.

Defenders: Unit: Quantity: Casualties: Survivors:
Commander: Strong Belwas Fists Fist 1 Damaged for 40, 210 health remains.
Troops: Clan Guardsmen Clan Guardsmen 900 365 535
Troops: Fists Fists 200 82 118
Troops: Death Dealers Death Dealers 700 284 416
Commander: Mystery Orc?? Death Packs Death Pack 1 Damaged for 40, 210 health remains.
Troops: Kobold Cohorts Kobold Cohorts 370 151 219
Troops: Clan Guardsmen Clan Guardsmen 370 151 219
Troops: Death Dealers Death Dealers 369 149 220
Commander: Sir Roger Valles Charioteers Charioteer 1 Damaged for 40, 460 health remains.
Troops: Militiamen Militiamen 500 204 296
Troops: Pikemen Pikemen 672 273 399
Troops: Longbowmen Longbowmen 699 284 415
Troops: Men-at-Arms Men-at-Arms 205 84 121
Commander: Sir Dave of Rhyagelle Charioteers Charioteer 1 Damaged for 40, 310 health remains.
Troops: Militiamen Militiamen 494 201 293
Troops: Pikemen Pikemen 503 204 299
Troops: Longbowmen Longbowmen 740 300 440


This was first blood between us....


phew Dead  ...will continue when I find more time



Edited by Grego - 14 Oct 2012 at 17:34
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 22:50
You can see that Messer's army sent to occupy Trove mine was defeated by Deimos. RHY got so upset that we received demand to punish Messer by ourselves and pay them 30 M gold. They tried to present it as personal dispute between greedy Jefke and RHY, like Jefke is some neutral player

They said: " trove mine demanded by jefke. 2 squares from hamsun of skb. offered to relinquish this deposit if that player objects to the occupation. so far no IGM from hamsun. no occupation at this moment."

http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Map/-403/-184

So RHY denied Boars the right over this mine because Hamsun didn't respond to their mail, and didn't occupy it with army

On 27th another demand from RHY: Absa must pay 70 M by 30th September, alternatevely expel Messer and Hugie so they can deal with them.

I can not find those battle reports, would apreciate if someone can post them. As I remember, Messer's army was destroyed again and RHY kept the mine...



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 23:12
On 27th Messer's army destroyed the camping army. I don't have the report, lost among a hundred siege camp reports forwarded to me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 23:24
On 28th RHY begun scouting cities of most our members in Keppen.
Next day Neytiri sent them first mail after their "blackmail":

"tournament
Sent By: Neytiri [Absa]
Received By: Indeva State [RHY]
Date: 29 Sep 2012 06:55

Good den to the Lord Indeva State,

I write to thee with humble biddings amidst this time of foreboding unrest. I know that your ill intent toward our kind alliance is fraught with anger and an attitude – nay, an altitude of entitlement that we ne’er could reach with the tallest of ladders in all Illyriad.

Tho while we are well apprised of your feelings in this matter -- however unjust methinks they be – our alliance bids you pause for the duration of the upcoming tournament.

We may commence with your hostilities -- be they as unfounded as a tent -- after the tournament concludes if you so wish to continue. We would rather prove our own altitude on Illyriad’s final tournament roster. . . and judge that you would, too. . . though, I caution, you will lose that contest, too.

So, unless you are too afraid (or too dim witted) to match your alliance against ours in a legitimate Illyriad tournament, we propose a respite in thy plans for war.

What say you, Indeva State? You doubt me? The Noble Sir Finrod can vouch for my stout heart!

I will count your actions against our colleagues Messer and Hugie as an answer, though I beg thee to be brave and prove wrong the unbridled rumors of your cowardice!

In patience,

The Lady Neytiri "

We were already heavily engaged in Dark Harvest tournament. Latelly we fell a bit but still high  you consider our current diplomatic stance in Illy
http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/World/Tournaments

still better than H?, which make us pride :)


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 23:25
*proud, sorry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 23:33
What's the goal of repeating the history in a new thread?  Are you trying to rally more allies to your cause?  Are you hoping that repeating the history will cause your enemies to stop?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 23:41
On 30th Buridan offered us military support from SkB if any siege will lay under our walls. 
Sneaky persons kept coming in large numbers :

Sent By: System
Received By: Vty [Absa]
Date: 01 Oct 2012 11:26
Operation Against: Summerland Vty [Absa]
Operation Type: Scout
Operation Outcome: Failed!
Mission Report:
An enemy diplomatic mision was detected and your counter-intelligence agents foiled their nefarious activities. You have managed to take custody of the enemy agents.

You brought 1000 agents to the cells for interrogation.

After a period of cunning, careful and diligent questioning by your interrogators, you discover that these agents were working for Deimos [RHY].

RHY also had visitors:

Phym [RHY] Alantin 214,859  http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/Player/History/1179
Siji [RHY] Alantin 164,369      http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/Player/History/41458
Some others too, bit lazy to check all now...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 23:43
History have that bad habbit, dude
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 23:44
New provocation from Absa:

Hugie
Sent By: Neytiri [Absa]
Received By: Indeva State [RHY]
Date: 01 Oct 2012 15:41

I think I hear a clucking sound from somewhere in Keppen. . .

Is that one of your members laying all those eggs?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 14 Oct 2012 at 23:48
Diplos and feints kept coming, we were aware what is going on yet didn't want to give up tournament
and RHY faced another unbearable insult from Absa! Unhappy

tournament
Sent By: Neytiri [Absa]
Received By: Indeva State [RHY]
Date: 03 Oct 2012 03:56

There's this strange odour wafting over the plains of Keppen, and I couldn't put my finger on until today. . . It's the smell of chicken frying!

Is that why you haven't participated in the tournament???
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