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            Deranzin wrote:

 
                scaramouche wrote:

 
                    Deranzin wrote:

 
                        Loud Whispers wrote:

 
                            Deranzin wrote:


                               - How did Roads get such a different deal - and much better - than the one you are talking about? 
                              
                             
                               - How can you raze your own cities?
                              
                             
                               - What does "all gold" mean? How much is that?
                              
                             
                               - Define "insane amount."
                              
                             
                               - What on earth does "forswear friends and allies" mean exactly? Stop talking in 3 dollar drama book lingo please.
                             
                             
                         Instead of arguing semantics why not just ask for proof of these claims? It would be a great deal more productive. It would be refreshingly simple too, matching the reality to the conditions and seeing how much they differ or adhere.
                        
                      
                      they 'd better explain in more detail what they are talking about 
                    
                  
                this part sounds like a threat...although you probably meant it differently?? 
                
              
             There is no need to be jumpy. Since when a phrase like "if you work in the field, you'd better wash you hands before eating" is a threat .?. 
             
            
             The logic is simple : If you are going to talk about such stuff in public, you'd better explain what you say instead of being vague for YOUR benefit.
             
            
             Simple as that and obviously no threats involved. 
             
             
                  sounds to me like no matter what people tell you what the demands were/are...you dont/wont believe them anyway, yet you still argue the toss...maybe you should ask your own leadership what the terms were/are..or do they keep you lot in the dark about this as well?
                 
               
             Well, since they seem to be bloating things totally out of proportion and Roads DID get a much better deal than what they describe, I think that we can all have the benefit of doubting what they claim till they get more to the point and do away with the drama, as I said to their benefit. 
             
             
             And no, I do not wish to ask my leadership ... I trust them to do their part and within what is reasonable, so I'd like to ask the other side if you do not mind. 
             
            
        Like I said you probably meant it differently ..:)...although thats how I first read it. 
        
         As i have also said ...you asked the opposition, they told you some of the terms but you dont accept what they say...why would they " bloat" things out of proportion? they have nothing to achieve from doing this...even our alliance had ludicrous terms from H?...but I suppose they were the start of terms and were (hopefully) up for discussion at the time it was mentioned.
         
        
         I guess this thread has well and truly been hi-jacked, cos it seems most people are just going over the same stuff all over again.