PA and Champ declare war against Valar

It's very unfortunate that Illy has devolved into the very game mentality that I tried to escape from that has been evidence in other games, Evony, being the prime example.

What has started as a conflict between two/three persons has escalated into a dominating Illy guild (oops, alliance) war. 

Unfortunately this is soooo reminiscent of the schoolyard bully scenario...I don't like you so I'm going to beat you up but you're too big for me, so I'm going to get my friend to help me.  

The mob mentality is showing through.  Seems like some never outgrew the playground mentality even though most players are well into adulthood. 

I can only hope that the only victims will be the active participants of this "war", however I would bet that there will be loads of new players that will be victimized, taken advantage of, or simply walk away in disgust simply because Illy will become just like all the other games.   Maybe the war focused players would be better off playing over in Global Domination.

Kurfist wrote: Do I moonlight as a propagandist for Al Qaeda in real life? I am not familiar with the phrase "moonlight", what do you mean?

Took me a little bit to figure this out,  too bad I can't make a insult stating you as a propagandist for a terrorist organization, im above that you see.

Binky the Berserker wrote: Rill wrote: Dakota Strider wrote: TD  While we are certainly outnumbered, I still find it hard to believe this is the consensus of the whole community.  Just the small percentage of the community that frequents GC. How many people have to join the war before you are willing to admit that you possibly misjudged the community?  At what point do you say "Hmmm ... maybe we were wrong about this one ... maybe people really DON'T want to play this way.  Maybe we should think of another way of playing that is still fun for us, but is consistent with the way others want to play as well." And what way do Valar play Rill? Have you ever been targeted by them yourself? Or have you been in their ranks long enough to make a judgementcall? Everyone seems to have an opinion based on stories they weren't involved in themselves. What is the way Valar are playing in your opinion? The only aggresive act I hear about is the one on berberos, which was done by an EX-Valarmember. Offcourse I don't have all the info myself, but I have read no posts here describing any other unfair attacks by them. I had problems too with Valar, but there was nothing unfair about the way they handled me. They didn't siege me to the ground or kept sending attacks at me. I can imagine they are a little aggresive towards lorre as he is trying to make Valar look bad in GC, but as far as my knowledge reaches, nothing unfair has been done there. Again, I'm not into all the info on this matter, but I'm sure other people (even ones involved in this silly war) who have given their opinion also have little idea where they are talking about

GM Stormcrow wrote: Hugie wrote: War happens, in the board room, amongst staff in a big company, in Illy. Or indeed, all three if you happen to work here! Sorry, couldn't resist ;) SC

Qwazar wrote: Hmmm....now I think we know WHO suggested that he stand on the teacup to begin with!