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    Posted: 21 May 2012 at 01:39
If it came to your attention that a player is a "sitter" for two accounts and if you also knew that the person owning those two accounts left the game, would that be a violation of Illy rules against playing more than two accounts or is that OK?  Should a player take over as sitter of accounts of players that leave the game?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 01:54
There was a bunch of a hullabaloo about long-term sat accounts some months ago.  The devs were going to put in some time limitations to prevent the sort of abuse that you are describing.  However, the plan was not implemented.  My understanding is that it's still on the "to-do" list somewhere.

In the meantime, it is not against game rules to have two accounts and also to perma-sit two accounts on each of those accounts, resulting in de facto control of six accounts.  Reaction of players to this behavior tends to be negative, however; there are players who were attacked over perceived abuse of account sitting, although the results of that effort are ambiguous at best.

So:  It's not against the rules and the devs won't do anything.  If there are enough players who object and can identify a culprit, they could potentially do something.  Speaking from experience, short of an open admission from someone who is also violating other community norms, probably people won't do anything unless or until they are directly affected, and possibly not even then.

If the tone of this post seems a little cynical, please forgive me.  I find the issue to be frustrating.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 09:51

I agree with Rill on this issue.  The use of dual accounts and dual perma-sits  should end and more sensible time limits should be introduced for account sitting.  



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 11:55
In my opinion if someone is sitting an account it is only short term.  Isn't long term sitting just a different way of saying im taking over your account.  The rules state each player can only have two accounts per server.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 17:19
the sitter would have to have a lot of spare time and dedication to run two accounts and sit two accounts.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 17:29
i have been sitting a account for quite some time, so that if needed i can help him out, he is active tho, so i usely dont do anything, but i check in some times to make sure he isnt running out of food or gold, been sitting it for a few months now, just no reason to cancel it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 18:34
Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

the sitter would have to have a lot of spare time and dedication to run two accounts and sit two accounts.

Given how many folks I see chatting on GC at any and all hours of the day and night, apparently there are a lot of people out there with nothing to do but play Illy.  I imagine some of them need six accounts just to keep busy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 19:21
Originally posted by Daufer Daufer wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

the sitter would have to have a lot of spare time and dedication to run two accounts and sit two accounts.

Given how many folks I see chatting on GC at any and all hours of the day and night, apparently there are a lot of people out there with nothing to do but play Illy.  I imagine some of them need six accounts just to keep busy.
 
LOL...get a job springs to mind.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 19:31
in my opinion, you should be allowed to babysit as many accounts as u are willing, this will increase the amount of things u will be able to do while playing the game, baby sitting 10 or more accounts forever would be fun and quite time consuming.....like people are not already doing it......
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 May 2012 at 19:53
Originally posted by Daufer Daufer wrote:

Originally posted by scaramouche scaramouche wrote:

the sitter would have to have a lot of spare time and dedication to run two accounts and sit two accounts.

Given how many folks I see chatting on GC at any and all hours of the day and night, apparently there are a lot of people out there with nothing to do but play Illy.  I imagine some of them need six accounts just to keep busy.

I can be seen at all hours of the day and night chatting on gc, and yet I honestly don't have time to sit other people's accounts (as those who have been unfortunate enough to request vacation coverage from me can attest).

Here's what I do in Illy that keeps me so busy:

1)  Administration for two alliances, including recruitment, new member orientation, helping players find city locations, resolving disputes with other alliances.

2)  Training and advice for new members

3)  Assisting new players in chat and by mail.  "How do I harvest?  How do I siege a city?  How do I create a commander?  How do I settle a city? How do I siege and capture a city? What are the differences between the races?  Does anyone have a link for ____________."  I have sent 43 mails or replies to players from one of my two accounts in the past 24 hours.

4)  Actively posting responses on the forum.  (5.06 posts per day on average does tend to take up one's time.)

5)  Planning and development for the Crow Federation, including writing briefs on current developments and planning and testing communication tools.

6) Development of forum guides.

7) Tracking and monitoring NPC behavior.

8)  Just trying to be a friend to people who are going through difficult times.

I frequently have two game windows and 2-3 private chat windows, plus the forum, open at any given time.

I assure you, these activities more than keep me busy.  I sometimes am online for three or more hours before I even have a chance to check the builds on my cities (never mind my alt's cities).

I am delighted to do all of these things.  My only point in making this post is that one should not assume that just because a person is active in global chat with some frequency means that the person either is or has the time for monitoring multiple accounts.

Indeed, in all likelihood such a person has less time than people who are completely silent in gc.  Some HUGcr and nCrow members who spend a lot of time doing public service in gc or helping alliance mates eschew alts for this reason.

Yes, there may be people who have enough time to have de facto control of six accounts.  But singling out people who are active in gc as potential "suspects" is just wrongheaded.


Edited by Rill - 21 May 2012 at 19:54
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