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Elmindra 
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Joined: 10 Sep 2012
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 Topic: No one said there would be Math!!
Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 15:49 |
I have a question about how equipment and commander bonuses are computed.
Say I have a Mangonel with a move speed of 3. I then use a draught horse which is a 25% bonus to bring it up to 3.75
So then I use a commander with a 10/10 forced march for an additional 50% movement speed. So is this 50% applied to the 3.75 move speed OR are you simply adding the 25% to the forced march bonus for a simple 75%. It may not seem like much, but in the first scenario you would have 5.625 movement speed compared to the second scenario or 5.25.
No one said there would be math!
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Rohk
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Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 16:16 |
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The 50% is applied to the 3.75 giving a net movement of 5.625.
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Faenix
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Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 16:16 |
As we discussed in GC, in case anybody else has the same question, the equipment effects are applied multiplicatively.
Base move speed of 3, with FM 10 is 4.5, times 1.25 draught horse bonus is 5.625 squares/hour.
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Elmindra
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Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 16:47 |
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Good to know, so the same could be said of attack bonuses as well I assume. Say I have a marshal with 59 attack equipped with plains spear/armor/heavy warhorse which gives a 29% bonus to plains attack. They charge bonus from my commander would be 15% of the already boosted attack (76.11) and not simply additive. Makes my marshal attack 87.53 vs 84.96.
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dunnoob
Postmaster
Joined: 10 Dec 2011
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Posted: 05 Oct 2012 at 23:20 |
 Elmindra wrote:
No one said there would be math! |
You can check the effect by equipping your troops, note shown speed, equip again with nothing, compare new with old speed, and ignore the math behind it. That should also work for other values shown on the military overview page.
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JimJams
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Joined: 20 Sep 2011
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Posted: 06 Oct 2012 at 01:32 |
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I think it is a bug. Should be addictive not multiplicative...
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Faenix
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Posted: 06 Oct 2012 at 04:26 |
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Pretty sure the devs mentioned during one of the preview videos that they would be multiplicative.
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Innoble
Wordsmith
Joined: 06 Dec 2011
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Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 00:25 |
JimJams wrote:
I think it is a bug. Should be addictive not multiplicative... |
The bonuses can be both multiplicative and addictive. I don't see the problem...
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Rill
Postmaster General
Player Council - Geographer
Joined: 17 Jun 2011
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Posted: 07 Oct 2012 at 01:14 |
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/me is highly addicted to the bonuses already
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Mogul
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Joined: 23 Sep 2011
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Posted: 08 Oct 2012 at 20:17 |
Speed bonuses are partly addictive and partly multiplicative, it should be:
effective speed = speed * (1 + (armour + weapon + mount) * elite) * (1 + (forced march))
as written in announcement post:
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