Rill wrote:
Stormcrow, I'm sorry to say this, but I think that you set up a strawman in order to avoid listening to our real concerns.
I understand why you can't keep using the old emoticons. Even before you specifically identified intellectual property concerns as *part* of the reason for the change, I thought that was likely part of what was driving the change, or at least why the change is happening now. You had to change the emoticons, and you put a lot of effort into trying to create something that would not just replace the old emoticons but enhance the game. Kudos to you. Really, well done and I appreciate it. Not every game would go the extra mile like that. Hard to think of another that would.
However, I can't read the new emoticons. Something that is supposed to communicate information to me fails to do so. I would prefer something that communicated the information more clearly. I would also prefer it if it were not gender-specific, for the reasons I outlined above.
I recognize that this is FAR from the most important thing going on right now. I also recognize that a lot of work went into the new emoticons, not to mention all the other amazing changes. Thank you all so much, really, really.
But it would be really nice to hear back from the development team that you recognize that these concerns, which are not mine alone, may have some validity. And that you might consider reworking the icons *at some point in the distant future when you have time and are not working on more important stuff*.
It feels to me like thus far they Illyriad team has been dismissive of constructive suggestions, which is really unusual for you folks, who are normally so patient and open. I wonder if part of it is because you are likely exhausted from the tremendous effort that went into the recent changes and maybe are not hearing what we are really saying. I don't hear most players saying "Hop to it, this is horrible, you must change it right away." We are saying "This doesn't seem to be working as well as it could, we'd appreciate it if you made some tweaks."
I would like to hear that you understand that we are expressing these concerns with positive intentions. It doesn't mean that you have to change anything, just that you've heard us.
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Everything I've said above, nicely condensed and sans the solutions previously stated. I agree with this.
Like I was trying (and I don't know how successfully) state in my posts, this is entirely about communication, and I really dig the style, the style is very Illy and it's spot on, unfortunately for an emoticon, it's like it's too much detail, without enough contrast to identify key elements. It's too complex. And this is hurting the
communication it is designed to impart.
Cerberus, I just want you to know, this is in no way meant as a personal attack on your art style or your efforts. Your art is phenomenal. Just bringing up or trying to bring up, and apply a constructive and soluble feedback to this 'situation' - as it seems to be.
In any case, not to continue rehashing, I have something (partially selfish, because I'm such a coffeemonger) for everyone that liked that emoticon.
I'm currently working on a new coffee cup emoticon for those of us that really liked being able to send each other one, or go for our own hot cup of java. I realize it's so simplistic, but it makes my day being able to for some reason.
I've got the mug done, complete with it's little saucer and am working on animating the steam. And yes Silent, I'll work on your fire too, though that is much more complex than steam. The colors and motion of it, as such. In any case...
The thing I'm concerned about also, just as with anything, is the amount of detail causing it to look like a white lump without any discerning features, or that the detail disappears and it looks like a dot with a handle, or something instead of a hot cup of coffee... We'll see. It should be fine, I'm rendering the original in 800x600 vector images, so we'll see what cracks I guess.
But it would be cool if we could get it tied into the current set with the keys as the old coffee was: ~O)
http://i1141.photobucket.com/albums/n595/Vis_Com/Coffee-Emoticon1.png
The cup so far. Feedback welcome. Coffee enthusiasts unite! heh