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@Teets: It's unsurprising that some alliances emphasize the war element of Illyriad. After all, your buildings and items all exist to produce or enhance troops. Playing Illy purely as a city builder or gathering-crafting game isn't going to excite everyone. Perhaps the game will take on a more robust PvE flavor when faction quests are active and the Broken Lands expansion is released. btw, I think threads like these count as the 'diplomacy' aspect, although ymmv.



@Epidemic: I don't know why this game would be dead if the war isn't diverted. The last war didn't wreck the server. Plenty of alliances are uninvolved, and there are surely profits to be made trading commodities with the combatants. And perhaps they will even want bulk quantities of high quality dwarven battle mules at respectable prices!

Epidemic wrote: I had several conversations with Shamarra about her circumstances. She was asking for help, all she wanted was to keep her towns. I stuck my neck out and asked Aesir if they could convince NC to not destroy her and let her join us.

And you cared so much that you deleted those IGMs afterwards ... didn't you keep even one .?. you know, for the good memories or something .?.   But ok, let us say that you like to tidy your inbox (I have friends like that that flush their e-mails as if this is the 5mb inbox back in the 90's ) ... deal ... but do you think that if I ever am in danger of ending up as one of the few people to ever get sieged out of the server I will not create a ruckus in forums or GC (like most people would do), but go seek help from one of Illyriad's best known traders ... and where on earth was BANE during all that .?. ...

this is soooooo not making any sense with the kind of data that are being offered ...

The last war did have a bad effect on the server, I had to actually start building troops because I thought I might need them for protection. As you can see now i've got a lot of sov and res depleting buildings just to protect myself from a more aggressive game. As a trader I hate the fact i'm losing all this gold on what I considered unnecessary a year ago.

As for the IGMs, I only keep what I consider as important and something I would want a record of. In rl I delete emails and texts sent to me immediately after reading them, in most cases.

Anyone that has played enough mmo knows that the overwhelming majority of players will never talk in gc, ac or even IGMs even when they're getting destroyed.

Brandmeister wrote: I don't know why this game would be dead if the war isn't diverted. The last war didn't wreck the server. Plenty of alliances are uninvolved, and there are surely profits to be made trading commodities with the combatants. And perhaps they will even want bulk quantities of high quality dwarven battle mules at respectable prices!

imho the difference here really is that so many players that have made Illy what it is today are involved in this one. Imagine for a moment if so many players from H? / DLords / Crows / Soon etc left the game?  What kind of community is this going to be? Everytime the community looses a high profile player the game suffers imho.

Epidemic wrote: I like SB and would join his alliance in a real war game, the problem is Illyriad is no war game... I've always said this is no war game, it's a social game. Those of us who have played real war games like Evony, Travian and Tribal Wars look at this game as retirement. I've said my peace. Correct me if i've made any mistakes from my interpretation of events.

^^ QFT


Edited by Meagh - 01 Nov 2013 at 02:32

Ok, another futile attempt at a factual thread. Guess all of you are more interested in spinning your spin than actual facts. If any of the GM's cruise these threads please close this one as the topic has deviated into a hash of opinions again of people trying to justify their actions. All I asked for was facts, not a 4 page hash of old issues repeated so often in every other thread.