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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 17:08
Originally posted by Elmindra Elmindra wrote:


You can't have it both ways, pick one and stick with it.

You already know that will not happen.

Also, is there any more point in discussing the war? The war will happen, attempts to broker peace are foolish actions. The reason they are foolish is because NC and H? and so on know where their opponents stand. There could be peace attained on all sides, but the feelings would still stay with all parties. The war that is occurring now would only be delayed.

Perhaps all the parties are giving their version of events for later documentation? 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 18:21
I like SB and would join his alliance in a real war game, the problem is Illyriad is no war game.

I can't speak for all the mentioned aggressive tactics claimed against NC, mostly because I didn't pay attention for most of my game time, but I can speak for some of what I witnessed in the NC/BANE war.

NC received help from 3 alliances; TVM, RES and Tcol. Could this be why those alliances were declared on?...I don't know. BANE was already merging with II before the war even started so saying II jumped in would not be accurate.

The war was brutal and the war reparations NC demanded would be considered outrageous if everyone knew. What was it, 2 cities per player involved? I know of at least one BANE player who did not want to lose 2 cities, I don't blame her, so NC proceeded to wipe all her 10 towns from the map.

This game will never survive high handed tactics like this, chasing players from this game will destroy it fast.

I've always said this is no war game, it's a social game. Those of us who have played real war games like Evony, Travian and Tribal Wars look at this game as retirement. I've said my peace. Correct me if i've made any mistakes from my interpretation of events.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 18:26
Good post dwarf

I actualy dont know nothing of what is going on... BUT:

I also been told this:  "I know of at least one BANE player who did not want to lose 2 cities, I don't blame her, so NC proceeded to wipe all her 10 towns from the map. " from someone from BANE.


NOw i will go back on taking care of my cows... they are getting very scared of suspicious characters loitering around my city's : P


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 18:36
Originally posted by Epidemic Epidemic wrote:


NC received help from 3 alliances; TVM, RES and Tcol. Could this be why those alliances were declared on?...I don't know. BANE was already merging with II before the war even started so saying II jumped in would not be accurate.

The war was brutal and the war reparations NC demanded would be considered outrageous if everyone knew. What was it, 2 cities per player involved? I know of at least one BANE player who did not want to lose 2 cities, I don't blame her, so NC proceeded to wipe all her 10 towns from the map.


NC grew by fewer players than Bane.   II leader Venita stated very clearly in GC that II were going to Bane because they were bored and wanted revenge.  The merger story arrived significantly later.

Finally - please prove your last statement - AFAIK it's complete BS and an example of why everyone thinks they "know" NC are bad guys.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 18:43
I think player name was Shamarra, i am not sure about details about why she was sieged but i saw sieges shorty after the war and i assumed that it was some reparation or something.Again only assumption from my part i only got info from herald so i cant know what is story behind it.I guess that Epidemic has Shamarra in mind when he says that player had to lose 10 cities.Only BANE players and NC can know real reasons others can only speculate.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 18:47
My last statement that a player was wiped off the map? It is well known that a player with 10 cities was destroyed because she refused to concede 2 cities as war reparations. She was a neighbor of mine that I tried recruiting and she informed me of everything through some IGMs. I've long ago deleted the mails, as I don't keep any mails. Clutter issues.

http://elgea.illyriad.co.uk/#/Player/Profile/40800 Shamarra
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 18:53
This one? I dont know the details but looks really brutal.


Shamarra Send a message Player since 28/4/2011 - 918 days ago

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 18:57
2 cities per player for a conflict about a sov square? Undisputed reality seems far worse then any bad-guys-rumours  Unhappy
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 19:30
I thought killing players out of the game was generally met with scorn?  You know, bullying and all that.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 19:38
Originally posted by Darmon Darmon wrote:

I thought killing players out of the game was generally met with scorn?  You know, bullying and all that.

Only if the lower class attempts to do that. Wink
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