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Gragnog 
Postmaster
Joined: 28 Nov 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 598 |
 Topic: NC
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 14:33 |
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Seems a lot of people have issues with the tiny little pitbulls. My perception is a bunch of players playing a war game and then getting complaints about them playing a war game. Perhaps some clear facts laid out here would help. As far as I recall NC only ever declared wars on equal sized or larger alliances (My memory may be a bit hazy due to working in the field so much lately). How this makes them bullies is above me. Their methods of diplomacy are also different to what others view as correct but this does not make them bad. I myself tend to resort to launch first and then talk. Now if someone has facts, and not opinions, just list them here and then everyone can make their own decisions.
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Spheniscidae
Wordsmith
Joined: 01 Mar 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 117 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 14:55 |
 Gragnog wrote:
...NC only ever declared wars on equal sized or larger alliances... |
This line
of pr
opaganda? It is getting
old.
P
opulati
on size is n
ot the
only indicat
or
of success in war. BANE was weakened by a t
ourney, and I d
on't remember the last time Celtic Knights f
ought in any war. Whereas NC has a wealth
of tr
o
ops, experience and has been able t
o "pick and ch
o
ose" the time they start their wars.
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Sir Bradly
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Sep 2012
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 228 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:15 |
Since this topic is about NC, perhaps I should say something.
Since our inception in June 2012, we have experienced some warfare. I could lay out our justification for each and every war here in this forum. However, experience tells me, I would be wasting my time and energy. I am absolutely positive everyone's mind is made up at this point. Being at war with 10 alliances is a clear sign we are past the "lets talk this out stage".
The time for posturing is over. We stand by our actions. We will defend NC until the last city stands. If you want to attempt to extract your "pound of flesh" from us, now is your chance.
We will not apologize or surrender to pack of jackals that surround us.
As far as I am concerned, the conversation is over.
SB
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Kumomoto
Postmaster General
Joined: 19 Oct 2009
Status: Offline
Points: 2224 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:19 |
Spheniscidae wrote:
Gragnog wrote:
...NC only ever declared wars on equal sized or larger alliances... |
This line
of pr
opaganda? It is getting
old.
P
opulati
on size is n
ot the
only indicat
or
of success in war. BANE was weakened by a t
ourney, and I d
on't remember the last time Celtic Knights f
ought in any war. Whereas NC has a wealth
of tr
o
ops, experience and has been able t
o "pick and ch
o
ose" the time they start their wars.
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Please. Stop the pathetic Bane apologies. They were a self described MERCENARY alliance. Mercs aren't gardeners. Nor chefs. Nor hairdressers. They are military professionals.
Anyone claiming that Bane at more than 2x NC's size was picked on is drinking some very potent coolaid.
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Elmindra
Forum Warrior
Joined: 10 Sep 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 464 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:27 |
And TVM states that players should not be afraid or ashamed of war in Illyriad. But come knocking on their doorstep and you get death threats.
You can't have it both ways, pick one and stick with it.
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geofrey
Postmaster General
Joined: 31 May 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 1013 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:31 |
Sir Bradly wrote:
The time for posturing is over. We stand by our actions. We will defend NC until the last city stands. If you want to attempt to extract your "pound of flesh" from us, now is your chance.
SB
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"Meat is back on the menu boys!"
Sorry SB, meant nothing by it, just couldn't resist an Urak-hai quote.
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The Electrocutioner
Forum Warrior
Joined: 09 Sep 2012
Location: Arran
Status: Offline
Points: 234 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 15:45 |
Spheniscidae wrote:
I d
on't remember the last time Celtic Knights f
ought in any war.
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I do - about 4 weeks ago, when they started sieging RE, a much smaller alliance than them. That is the sole reason we went to war with CK. The offer we made (which still stands) is that if CK will make peace with RE, then NC will make peace with CK. No punishment, no reparations, no other terms.
But CK and now uCrow do not want peace, and this offer has been rejected. That's fine, but it is their choice, not ours. They bear the responsibility for the war and everything it has grown into.
The game of blaming NC for targeting poor, little CK falls apart when you look at the facts. And the fact that they refuse peace when it is offered to them without condition just goes to show that they (CK and uCrow) want this war, and they want it to escalate.
They are welcome to prove me wrong. Tameaon and Ajeka - offer peace in game to NC and RE. It will be accepted.
If you want peace, take it. It's yours. If you want war, that is your choice, but please stop pretending you want peace when you don't.
Edited by The Electrocutioner - 31 Oct 2013 at 15:46
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blazing arrow
New Poster
Joined: 07 Oct 2011
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Points: 31 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 16:20 |
It isn't true SB that this started with RE conflict with CK
For long ever since the tourney after Consone war..you were trying to instigate the Crows and you know it well how...
I don't know if the close fight to the top made those thoughts strong...
and those including H? leadership were well made aware of the mis- adventures... and ppl who are responding in these forums are well aware of that....
The stance from H? was very clear on taking on any alliance attacking NC irrespective of its deeds in a way sponsoring and encouraging all its actions till now
The very fact that NC has survived after what it has done so far is coz of H? patronage and protection
It was very clear NC was carrying out these actions to achieve a specific outcome
Force the Crows into a war
http://forum.illyriad.co.uk/discussing-the-current-war_topic5289_page2.html
Disclaimer. This is just me expressing my opinion
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Sir Bradly
Forum Warrior
Joined: 12 Sep 2012
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 228 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 16:31 |
Sir Bradly wrote:
Since this topic is about NC, perhaps I should say something.
Since our inception in June 2012, we have experienced some warfare. I could lay out our justification for each and every war here in this forum. However, experience tells me, I would be wasting my time and energy. I am absolutely positive everyone's mind is made up at this point. Being at war with 10 alliances is a clear sign we are past the "lets talk this out stage".
The time for posturing is over. We stand by our actions. We will defend NC until the last city stands. If you want to attempt to extract your "pound of flesh" from us, now is your chance.
We will not apologize or surrender to pack of jackals that surround us.
As far as I am concerned, the conversation is over.
SB
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Blazing Arrow,
Please refer to the last line of our official statement.
SB
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st aug
Wordsmith
Joined: 15 May 2013
Location: unkown
Status: Offline
Points: 106 |
Posted: 31 Oct 2013 at 16:52 |
How ever you play and see this game is your choice. But you have to understand some people see this game as a fighting game and they build troops and war city's and use them. You may not like it but you do have deal it with when you number is called . So prepare yourself the best you can . When war breaks out the why, were, and when all that he said she said and why doesn't matter and your wasting your time . Because there comming . This is a war game no matter how you see it and you if don't see that some body will remind of that . All who play this game have to deal with it not just you. We are all in the same boat. It's part of the game . Good luck to all.
Edited by st aug - 31 Oct 2013 at 17:31
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