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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 20:44
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Subatoi change your font or increase font size. Your text is unreadable...

It's very readable
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 20:47
I think that if taxes for NAP and confeds are introduced they would not change much except words in alliance diplomatic screen.Confederations that are formed would still exists since they are founded on something deeper then just diplomatic relations description in alliance page.< id="gwProxy" ="">< jscode="leoInternalChangeDone" ="ifofjsCall==''jsCall;elsesetTimeout'jsCall',500;" id="jsProxy" ="">
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 20:53
Originally posted by Sloter Sloter wrote:

I think that if taxes for NAP and confeds are introduced they would not change much except words in alliance diplomatic screen.Confederations that are formed would still exists since they are founded on something deeper then just diplomatic relations description in alliance page.< id="gwProxy" ="">< jscode="leoInternalChangeDone" ="ifofjsCall==''jsCall;elsesetTimeout'jsCall',500;" id="jsProxy" ="">

Ah yes but only if someone is confederation to your alliance or Nap'ed can they or you aid them, maybe in the future only confeds will be able to reinforce allies which would make confeds more special. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 20:59
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 23:47
Originally posted by Subatoi Subatoi wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

I have no opinion of the change to increase the cost for starting an alliance; it occurred before I started playing Illy.
Ah that interestingly enough was one of my more favored times of illyriad. 
  


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jul 2012 at 23:57
Originally posted by Subatoi Subatoi wrote:

Originally posted by Bonaparta Bonaparta wrote:

Subatoi change your font or increase font size. Your text is unreadable...

It's very readable


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2012 at 03:31
I wouldn't suggest limiting the ability to form confeds necessarily, but I have found myself asking whether some of these confeds are overkill? I mean, there are confeds of like 5+ massive alliances. And many giant alliances have joined multiple of these giant confeds. Eventually, won't we see every sizeable alliance in one of these? I already see tons of green cities around mine, and most of those alliances I had no idea my alliance was even affiliated with.
What happens if this trend continues and everyone's green on everyone's screens but the unaffiliated players? How will tournaments even work (can you attack other friendly alliances during tourneys?)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2012 at 03:39
Usually the devs drop it for the duration i think.. or something..

Fyi Rill I went to go back and edit my post after you took an innocent "ahh i remember the good ol days" comment and took it as a personal attack, so now it should be more obvious. 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2012 at 03:39
Whether you can attack confeds depends on the rules of the specific tourney.  In the last tourney, for example, only players from the same alliance could coexist on a single square.  In tournament III (the elemental tournament), it was every player for him/herself on the tournament squares.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 Jul 2012 at 03:44
Originally posted by Hadus Hadus wrote:

I wouldn't suggest limiting the ability to form confeds necessarily, but I have found myself asking whether some of these confeds are overkill? I mean, there are confeds of like 5+ massive alliances. And many giant alliances have joined multiple of these giant confeds. Eventually, won't we see every sizeable alliance in one of these? I already see tons of green cities around mine, and most of those alliances I had no idea my alliance was even affiliated with.
What happens if this trend continues and everyone's green on everyone's screens but the unaffiliated players? How will tournaments even work (can you attack other friendly alliances during tourneys?)

You bring up a good point. 

What happens when everyone agrees to peace with everyone? 

Well to break it down simply that will never happen. More likely all of the seasoned players will join a series of alliances that form a confederation that encompases the majority of the player base (harmless +crow +Consone + Dark Star Dominion type of thing). Lets call this mega confederation, the Authority. 

The Authority now gets to do whatever they want, because there are other confederations out there, but non that are even half their size.They watch each other's back. If one of their players gets in a dispute, they ensure nothing happens to them.  They are all over the map so you can't distance yourself from the Authority. All that is left is either join them, or give them whatever they want (all the good squares) and stay out of their way. 

Now the Authority isn't a bully. They are just practical. They respect each other, and they make sure that the most respected players get the best benefit out of the game. It just so happens that all of the respected players are in their Confederation. In their mind they are making Illyriad a better place. 

The Authority can continue ruling so long as 1 thing stays true. They can never change leadership. The moment whoever is incharge, decides to step down/promote someone else, all hell breaks loose. That is when the Authority will have a minor civil war, most likely between 2 players. One of those 2 players will drop out of their Alliance to wage war. And when he drops out, his loyal comrades will drop out to help him. Now it is at the exact moment, when Authority and EX Authority members go to war with each other, that all of those "other alliances" do what they do best: chaos. 

With no central leadership of the Authority, each alliance is left to decide what to do. With individual decisions being made there is bound to be conflict between alliances, resulting in global war. 

And that was just a Tuesday. 

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