I think there's a bug

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         ... I didn't use a petition because I haven't lost anything, but I think there's a bug in the sovereignty claim option. The information under sovereignty says you have to research sovereignty, serfs, and landholding, then send an occupying army, and click on "claim sovereignty". I did all that, and got a message saying that to claim sovereignty you must research :  at least "both" serfs, landholding, and socage. The word "both" in there gave me pause .. anyway,  I posted in  alliance chat what was happening, and someone else said he thought it was a bug - the same thing had happened to him.  I tend to agree, since socage is the ability to claim sovereignty on TWENTY squares! That, combined with the instructions that you need to research "sovereignty, serfs, and land-holding" make me think that this might be a bug, too, so I wondered if anyone had ever reported it.

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Morwen Silverleaf Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List New Poster Joined: 11 Jul 2012 Location: USA Status: Offline Points: 34	Topic: I think there's a bug Posted: 13 Sep 2012 at 14:19
	... I didn't use a petition because I haven't lost anything, but I think there's a bug in the sovereignty claim option. The information under sovereignty says you have to research sovereignty, serfs, and landholding, then send an occupying army, and click on "claim sovereignty". I did all that, and got a message saying that to claim sovereignty you must research : at least "both" serfs, landholding, and socage. The word "both" in there gave me pause .. anyway, I posted in alliance chat what was happening, and someone else said he thought it was a bug - the same thing had happened to him. I tend to agree, since socage is the ability to claim sovereignty on TWENTY squares! That, combined with the instructions that you need to research "sovereignty, serfs, and land-holding" make me think that this might be a bug, too, so I wondered if anyone had ever reported it.

Rill Members Profile Send Private Message Find Members Posts Add to Buddy List Postmaster General Player Council - Geographer Joined: 17 Jun 2011 Location: California Status: Offline Points: 6903	Posted: 13 Sep 2012 at 18:44
	This is not a bug. Socage is a research that was introduced later (when chancery of estates was released). Previously you needed both serfs and landholding, now you need ALL serfs, landholding and socage. The error is in the descriptive text still saying both when there are three things. Socage allows UP TO 20 squares. 1 square is up to 20 squares. Definitely confusing for people who weren't here before the changes were introduced.