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Poll Question: Hide and Close (for a period) Centrum and Hope Ridge ?
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A trader is and has always been a middle man, and depending on places mostly moving stuff from point a to b, ===>>> Agree does anyone doing this in illyriad ... cause in illyria the trader is the person that take advance of the lack of patient of the sellers to sell and the buyiers to buy .
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Yes, there are people who do this in illyriad. That's what people placing buy/sell orders are doing; they are being more patient than the people who fill them.
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Originally posted by Sif Sif wrote:

cause in illyria the trader is the person that take advance of the lack of patient of the sellers to sell and the buyiers to buy .

Which means the Illyriad trader is the middle man - thus a "real" trader.

Outside of what you describe there are a few different areas for traders in Illyriad though:
  • Flippers (Trade at Centrum by buying low and selling for more)
  • High quantity traders: Buy smaller quantities and sell as a bulk to interested parties (usually direct trades)
  • Investors: Buy items when the price is low and later on sell them when they are higher
  • Movers: Buy items at local hubs and move them to Centrum/other hubs to sell there
Most traders engage in multiple areas.
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Which means the Illyriad trader is the middle man - thus a "real" trader===>>> being a middle man does not make you a trader ..... being a middle man that knows where to buy and where to sell does


  • Flippers (Trade at Centrum by buying low and selling for more)===>>> patience exploiters
  • High quantity traders: Buy smaller quantities and sell as a bulk to interested parties===>>> exploiters of unpatience of others
  • Investors: Buy items when the price is low and later on sell them when they are higher===>>>real trader I doubt their effort worth with the current system. this aspect I want to be expanded and make more profitable
  • Movers: Buy items at local hubs and move them to Centrum/other hubs to sell there===>>>real trader I doubt their effort worth with the current system.  this aspect I want to be expanded and make more profitable
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They are all traders ... On top of a problem of reading and understanding, you have a problem of values ...
And with that I'm done here also ... Good luck, I'm out before I start calling names ....
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I've done all of those types of trading in the past, they are all viable right now and profitable if you know what you're doing.
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I used to craft some items and sell them both direct and in hubs. Was I a trader? To an extent yes but it formed a very small part of my Illy play as I wasn't that interested in it. There are tools available to allow poeple to track prices in any hub that is visible to them - ask 4WT about the one I made for them.

Any sort of attempt to ban chatting about trade in GC would require one of the dev team to be constantly monitoring GC. This is not the sort of thing that could be easily done by a bot such as the one that checks for banned words. The dev team should as much as possible be allowed to concentrate on the coding and general upkeep of the game.

I believe the original idea behind Centrum being visible to every capital city was to allow new players to fairly easily get an introduction to the trading methods available in Illy. In my opinion it does this fairly well and removing the visibility of it and the BL alternative would be a very bad idea.

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I used to craft some items and sell them both direct and in hubs. Was I a trader?'===>>> i count this as a crafting action

Any sort of attempt to ban chatting about trade in GC would require one of the dev team to be constantly monitoring GC===>>> agree but as i said this ( GC trade )  would cut trading would not eliminate it


I believe the original idea behind Centrum being visible to every capital city was to allow new players to fairly easily get an introduction to the trading methods available in Illy.===>>> I also agree that at the begining when there was really luck of potential traders not having centrum whould damage the game ...but.... this time has pass....

also regarding the idea that the community will make its own centerum i would like to tell me when broken land realise and did the comunity eventually manage to make a centume at BL ?
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No true Scotsman

Person A: "No Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."
Person B: "But my uncle Angus is a Scotsman and he puts sugar on his porridge."
Person A: "But no  true  Scotsman puts sugar on his porridge."

No true Scotsman ILLYRIAD
SIF:  Hi ,I believe that HAVING visable 2 central HUBS is bad for the  trading experience of the game having visible 2 central hubs make thing much easier for everyone but is it any realistic?, does not it cut from the fun of the trading? , what is a trader at illyriad ?
eowan : people do trade
SIF:  PRODUCER => TRADER => CUSTOMER / is there many traders?
eowan : i was trading 
SIF: i agree you did 

who is A and who B ?
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