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Originally posted by LadyLuvs LadyLuvs wrote:

Brand you are in the minority here apparently.  I am glad you can be so passive about it.

I am only in the minority on this particular forum thread. A quick look at the map shows that I am in the vast majority. I see lots of mines and herbs with garrisons, many with both guards and sov claims, and relatively few with only a sov claim. The practice of posting guards is so widespread because it is effective.

I am curious why my approach is labeled as passive. Posting guards is a proactive measure to eliminate the possibility of minor conflicts like this one. It requires diligence and action, which is the opposite of passive behavior. If anything, claiming only sov and then complaining about intruders is passive, particularly if this disagreement has happened more than once. You have an easy, effective solution available. Post a guard, problem solved. It will probably never happen again.
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Originally posted by LadyLuvs LadyLuvs wrote:


Epidemic your opinion is very impontant to me and I don't understand why others show whiny pettiness towards you.   I am  interested in anything you have to say on any matter. Have a nice day.

Thanks!


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If you think Brand is passive, I just recently reassured a new-ish player that it was okay that he was collecting on my sov (he sent me a message apologizing) and sent him 150K gold and 1000 of each adv resources just to be nice. >.>

Granted, I don't have anything sov'd I actually care about. No grapes or silversteel, so I can see why it'd be an issue for some. Then again, I don't see why anyone would be upset if their harvesters were destroyed when on someone else's sov. Kind of seems like something you should expect, unless you're new. 
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Epi - nice try but distorting my words just proves my points about you.   Thank you for making my point loud and clear for all to read!  I appreciate you validating my opinion of you. Now seriously go away!  

Brand, t here are those that do kill animals and leave no marking army.  Yet they expect everyone to know they killed those animals and will be back to harvest them.  I find them daft and ignorant and actually get tired of their grumbling about it.  Those types of harvesting issues are because there is no way of telling who killed the lot whether it was a NPC or a player.  There is no mark to know. 

Sov leaves a mark on the map and it even tells you who it belongs to.  If you can't read and avoid those spots then you should find another game to play.  Those that do do the double duty sov and army have probably had this same issue.  I, however, feel it is redundant to mark a spot soved and then have to leave an army on it too because other players have no sense of respect for the gold another player is already spending per hour on a spot they soved.

You can harvest the basics, clay, iron, lumber, and stone all you want within my sov but stay away from my Grapes, minerals and herbs both rare and basic unless you ask and receive proper permission.  After these 2 players, no one is ever likely to receive permission to harvest anything on my sov again.  

Once again I ask that this thread be closed.  I am not looking for permission or any other validation.  I would hate to see Epi prove me right repeatedly.  Please LOCK this thread!
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When one begins a forum topic, one can expect to have some discussion related to it.  Often that discussion moves in directions unforeseen by the original poster.  It is the nature of forums, seems to me.

Mostly people don't like it when forum mods locks threads, and I"m not sure they should do so based on player requests.  Although I'm sure there are threads I've started that I later wished would be locked!
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Starting a post doesn't mean you control the entire conversation. People are free to disagree with the OP, and that doesn't mean the post should be locked. I thought it was a useful conversation on an ongoing Illyriad game style clash.

If you want to see it locked because you are arguing with Epidemic, I would point out that you are the only person on this thread making ad hominem attacks. His humor was quite tame in comparison.
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As far as any person needing the basics on my sovs, I'm cool with that, even to the gold that's sitting on my sovs with VANS. I am past the point of needing basics outside my castle, and I don't have a 10x10 area that I claim for npc's... respect my basic 5x5 area is all I'm asking. I remember people harvesting on my front porch, I do call that rude, so don't test me.



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My warning has been issued.  That is all I wanted to do. 

Back to forum avoidance.  Thank you greatly for reminding me why I don't venture here very often.  Thumbs Up

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If its something rare and valuable, post a guard.  otherwise, and it's not worth getting up tight about it.  Soving minor resources is a complete waste of time in my opinion as is posting guards. Every night I may have between 200-300 harvesting missions and obviously I don't have that many armies.  Every 3 months, I might get a problem requiring a polite email but that's it.
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