Harvesting Rudeness

Yea, I agree. Harvesting on someone else's sov is rude and warrants a kill. I don't think armies need to be posted on sov and it just isn't practical. More than the cost, those commanders can be doing something else. Sovereignty is ownership but now and then you need to get out the shotgun and run off the idiot kids vandalizing your stuff.

This complaint repeats itself constantly. Should people harvest on sov? Probably not. Do people harvest on sov? Obviously, because I've been hearing the same complaint for two years. Real life metaphors about cars are irrelevant--this is a video game, and people are not beholden to real world standards of behavior.

I post guards, and I have never had this problem. Being a practical guy, I am more concerned with the result (not having problems with unwanted harvesters) than I am with questions of meta-game philosophy (should sov be viewed as an exclusive claim to rare resources?). My policy of not killing harvesters is from the same vein of thought: I am uninterested in chancing a pointless fight with some belligerent dipstick over her dead miners, when I can easily remove that possibility with a 1 gold/hr militia unit.

Brand you are in the minority here apparently.  I am glad you can be so passive about it.  I have had repeated issues with one player and now an issue with one that was impatient for a response to an email.  Those players are from 2 branches of an alliance.  That is disrespect.  They need to teach their players better.

Edited by LadyLuvs - 26 Jul 2014 at 14:29

My experience of harvesting is that disagreements arise rarely which for me is around once per 3 month.  I admit to being an opportunist harvester yet very few players have ever reacted negatively.  If I see people harvesting "on my turf", I can just scout them and then decide to bump them or not.  Most times I will simply scout and mail the player but again in the last 6 months I've mailed twice only.  I've lost harvesters in the past to other people's over protective nature but that's harvesting (and people) for you.  I don't have enough armies to keep watch over everything nor do I even try except maybe for something rare or special such as elemental salts. So in short, let them harvest or bump them or mail them. Let's face it, the resources regenerate so if they're not being harvested, the production is "lost" anyway because there are maximum levels of resource.

I don't really see LadyLuvs, why you got that upset with Epidemics statement - although it seems an old grudge?
But I agree with Epidemics statement:
"10x10 for city placement and 5x5 exclusive zone for sov, harvesting and armies"
That is a much more generally accepted rule than "nobody may ever do anything within 10 square radius of any of my towns" (or in some cases a square with 21 square sides).  There are occasionally alliances or players that claim such 10 square exclusivity, and there are also alliances popping up that claim exclusive rights to a region without having much of a coverage. Such claims are generally not long-lived although I have also seen exceptions to that.
I do consider sovereignty a clear claim to the square though, and generally avoid harvesting on such squares. I have had cases with repeated harvesting on my sov - and then I did post an army there for a couple of months and the problem was gone. I suspect the player was also gone but I really don't know that.