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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 00:40
Originally posted by Capricorne Capricorne wrote:

Originally posted by Subatoi Subatoi wrote:

The soul of illy was crushed when people declared it a free for all (sandbox) and told everyone to play their way or get eliminated.
 

Excellent! 

We going to make this another topic?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 00:50
This is indeed good news! Congratulations to both sides on coming up with a compromise!

I would suggest the locking of this thread if that can be done.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 02:30
Originally posted by Chaos Armor Chaos Armor wrote:

This is indeed good news! Congratulations to both sides on coming up with a compromise!


No compromise (or cooperation) was necessary.  We said we would extract our own compensation plus punitive damages, and we have done so.  As for this theatrical side show, any grievance there was handled by separate and poetically ironic amends, in the usual diplomatic fashion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 03:12
seems abit weak to me, showing how weak the victim was, i mean look at LWO they fought themselves into nothingness :P 

so after this i think its safe to say that LWO had more strength of heart then VALAR  Embarrassed
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 03:13
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 05:10
hey how the hell did i get involved in this convo?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 05:19
Originally posted by lorre lorre wrote:

hey how the hell did i get involved in this convo?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 11:14
Good news.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 11:24
Originally posted by Anjire Anjire wrote:

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Now this is where the crux of their complaint begins to fall apart.  According to Taelin, it was only after H? responded and it was due to our initial response that they sent their attacks against Malpherion's siege.  The math indicates otherwise. The 2K knights from Dunedain had to be launched prior to or immediately following contact from Valar.  At the very least, a good two hours before H? leadership offered their response.  So, in fact they were not operating in good faith and were in violation of their own set standard they wanted us to hold Malpherion accountable too.   There first response was to escalate. 

So, we have Valar not only violating their own standard they are now publically lying about the timeline in an attempt to make their position look better.  Not very good show of faith in my opinion.

For those still reading, the above is the rationale for taking a more heavy-handed approach in requesting and seeking restitution in this matter.  Valar is being held to the same standard they wished to hold Malpherion - initiating action before letting diplomacy run its course. 

~Anjire
 
 
 
I agree with Anjire in this point and feel that VALAR could have sent army to attack the seiging force when they had sent a mail without waiting for reply as my alt had faced the same with VALAR. I seiged a suspended player from VALAR and got a mail from one of their Council members that I should have mailed them and asked to withdraw. I was away for a day and when I read I agreed to do so and had sent a reply mail that I will be withdrawing my seige forces.
 
But when my messenger was on way, VALAR has destroyed my seige army and I had lost my 6 cats with few hundreds of Stalwarts.
 
I never took it to my alliance or anyone, but had sent a mail to the VALAR Council member who mailed me regarding this and asked how come its fair to destroy my army when I agreed to take my forces back. But as against your expectation from a diplomat, I never got any reply
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