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Silverlake 
Forum Warrior
Joined: 15 Oct 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 417 |
 Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 02:38 |
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Bye, good luck in all your future efforts... take care!
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Meagh
Forum Warrior
Joined: 16 Jul 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 224 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 03:00 |
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well.. still sorry to see any active player leave our sandbox :(
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Le Roux
Wordsmith
Joined: 30 May 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 151 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 03:13 |
 Angrim wrote:
Loud Whispers wrote:
Southern Dwarf wrote:
who just wish to turn Illy in said wargame. |
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it is just as wrong to say that illy is only war as it is to try to take war out of it. illyriad without the potential for war would be like poker without wagering. it is the threat of war that makes players accountable for their actions. if war were to become impossible, there would be no value to peace.
this thread presents a false dilemma between two games, neither of which is illy.
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Beecks
Wordsmith
Joined: 03 Apr 2012
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 194 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 13:28 |
Loud Whispers wrote:
Kumomoto wrote:
No, LW. It's like playing chess against a person who, when being down by 6 pieces, storms away from the game accusing you of forcing them to play a game they never wanted to play in the first place. Remember that this person had every opportunity and capability of never being in this war... |
And I don't see anything in the OP begrudging his conquerors for defeating him at war. Only that he cannot play in something he believes "is just a war game."
And thereupon lies my gripe about why it's suddenly ok to begin insulting a defeated foe you'll never have to deal with again, because he supposedly stated a correct opinion held by H? & co. players.
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The backlash is more of a result of Southern Dwarf's persistence in delivering overwrought, near hysterical posts. No one on either side has proven to be more adept at declaring the end of the world at every conceivable opportunity.
It's sad to see an active player leave the game but I won't miss his moaning.
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Cilcain
Wordsmith
Joined: 13 Oct 2012
Status: Offline
Points: 106 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 13:47 |
For the record, Southern Dwarf is a decent bloke whose main joy in Illy was trying to decipher its mysteries and mechanics. He also valued the friendship of his allies which is why he did not leave the alliance.
He was not an aggressive player, and indeed did not have two spears to rub together. Due to the constant attacks on his defenceless towns, he felt unable to pursue his interests in Illy, and as he did not want to leave his mates either he chose to leave the game.
Just because this is the latest post on this thread, I do not claim the "final word", so don't feel as if you have to dissect my words through piecemeal quotes - but I do ask that we cease posting to this thread, it's done now - he's gone, and we've all had our say.
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Deranzin
Postmaster
Joined: 10 Oct 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 845 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 14:13 |
Cilcain wrote:
He was not an aggressive player, and indeed did not have two spears to rub together. Due to the constant attacks on his defenceless towns, he felt unable to pursue his interests in Illy, and as he did not want to leave his mates either he chose to leave the game.
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Ehm ... not to spoil this for anyone, but an IGM to the leadership of both sides saying that he will not participate in the war since he doesn't like it and doesn't have any army either way would have rendered him almost perfectly safe even within a warring alliance.
There are so many solutions for his complaint that it is mindboggling that he left the game because of it.
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Juswin
Wordsmith
Joined: 04 Aug 2011
Location: Philippines
Status: Offline
Points: 119 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 15:33 |
People are different. What you think is mind-boggling may be perfectly acceptable to a whole lot of other people. Just accept his goodbyes, regardless of whether he took potshots at certain people. If you feel that you are not at fault, why bother to react at all? Are you criticizing his reasons because there is some truth in what he said?
Bye Afaslizo.
Edited by Juswin - 04 Jan 2013 at 15:46
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KillerPoodle
Postmaster General
Joined: 23 Feb 2010
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Points: 1853 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 15:48 |
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There is an important lesson to be learned here. If you have a large and whiny mouth you better have something to back it up or be prepared to face the consequences.
From my perspective he was absolutely a participant in the war, precisely because of all his forum rants attempting to influence opinion against one side of the combatants and regardless of how delusional and Chicken Little-esqe his posts were.
That being said he could easily have stayed out of the war or left with minimal fuss but he chose not to and then chose to try to spin that into even more drama in this thread. I therefore have no sympathy whatsoever.
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"This is a bad idea and we shouldn't do it." - endorsement by HM
"a little name-calling is a positive thing." - Rill
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Loud Whispers
Wordsmith
Joined: 31 Jul 2012
Location: Saltmines
Status: Offline
Points: 196 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 16:19 |
KillerPoodle wrote:
There is an important lesson to be learned here. If you have a large and whiny mouth you better have something to back it up or be prepared to face the consequences.
From my perspective he was absolutely a participant in the war, precisely because of all his forum rants attempting to influence opinion against one side of the combatants and regardless of how delusional and Chicken Little-esqe his posts were.
That being said he could easily have stayed out of the war or left with minimal fuss but he chose not to and then chose to try to spin that into even more drama in this thread. I therefore have no sympathy whatsoever.
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I honestly have nothing left to say that has already been said.
Since apparently morality doesn't exist anymore, have some forum rules.
Code of Conduct
In order to create a positive and respectful environment for both the Illyriad players and staff, the following are strictly pr
ohibited both in game and on the forums:
- abuse, harassment and name-calling
- posts with the intent to provoke or disrupt other players aka "trolling"
- profanity is forbidden in game and strongly discouraged on the forums
Forum Specific:
- When posting game feedback and suggestions, please be constructive and specific. Negative feedback is welcome as long as it adheres to the Illyriad Code of Conduct as listed above.
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The_Dude
Postmaster General
Joined: 06 Apr 2010
Location: Texas
Status: Offline
Points: 2396 |
Posted: 04 Jan 2013 at 17:38 |
Cilcain wrote:
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He was not an aggressive player, and indeed did not have two spears to rub together. Due to the constant attacks on his defenceless towns, he felt unable to pursue his interests in Illy, and as he did not want to leave his mates either he chose to leave the game.
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1) VICX joined the war voluntarily. Peaceful players should not remain in alliances that join wars unless they are prepared to fight.
2) VICX as part of Consone should have no difficulty mustering a defense of any member towns. If Alfas's cities were defenseless, it was because Consone abandoned him.
3) When I was attacked and my alliance refused to render aid, I quit that alliance and took a break from Illy, too. Working hard to advance an alliance that does not reciprocate is very disheartening.
It sounds to me like Consone betrayed Alfas by failing to defend him.
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