Hello all. For those that remember me, Im Faya, who used to be the leader of Goonies until we merged with Curse many moons ago. I obviously dont post very often cause frankly, most of this stuff really bores me. And frankly, we have two huge threads talking about the same stuff. I wish one would get closed and we just go back and forth in one... even though we have touched on everything we could think about already and its all one big circle.
But, I've read on and on.. and decided to make a statement and toss out my two cents. I dont care to argue my points or frankly care if you think every word I say is garbage.. its what I want to say and thats that.
I keep seeing things about "why did Curse get involved in this?" and things of that nature. So let me TELL you why:
* CURSE HAS BEEN INVOLVED IN THIS FOR OVER 6 WEEKS NOW. We didn't JUST get involved. However, our focus has been the same then AS IT IS NOW! Our primary objective has, and will remain the removal of Spirit/Roller from the areas around Curse Cities. Its as simple as that. We haven't attacked any other VALAR city (ok, maybe we had one person attack one by accident, etc). But our forces have had one goal, Spirit/Roller removed from Curse areas.
* I will say, we've (Curse and Valar) had some good battles on that line. They have defended well on some and others we attacked better. Its been good (so, believe it or not, there's a compliment to VALAR).
* I can't speak for the other alliances as to their involvement and their reasons for declaring.. but I will say this... Curse highly respects its confederations. We have had confederations with only a few alliances, one of them being DLords, for a VERY long time. We consider them very very close allies. So yes, we were officially requested BY DLords to declare war to show unity on our side. After receiving that request, the Curse Council discussed it. And it was decided that we WOULD declare but our focus would
remain Spirit/Roller. Sure, we will defend Dlords or another ally of they get attacked. But until we feel
Spirit/Roller is no longer within our areas, you WONT see us attacking other VALAR cities unless attacked..
* So we didn't just "JOIN" this war... we just made it official (little easier now that we are "red" to each
other as well). But again, Spirit/Roller IS OUR TARGET... we have never hid that nor will we now.
OTHER POINTS:
WAR
I also want to bring up points about "war."
I understand there's building, there's trading, there's military, ... ie, the "sandbox." But I have found that people playing this game, overall, seems SCARED of war. Part of it is the game mechanics (not putting it down GMs so dont smite me) where it can take months and months to build a city and you can lose it in a FEW HOURS. And part of it is diplomacy where frankly, almost everyone is connected to everyone else through NAPs and Confederations (which I will go into later).
Anytime there is any small war, everyone is asking for "proof" or "reasons" or "explain why" any of these alliances went to war. My response is simple: BECAUSE ITS PART OF THE GAME! If you are worried about your cities getting destroyed in a game that ONE part of sandbox is DESIGNED for war, then go to www.simcity.com and play that. This game, even though there are tons of different play styles, really has a lot centered around "war". The new buildings are pretty much centered around war and diplo style play. We have supplies and guess what, ALL those supplies get used in some way for the creation of ARMIES.. and are ARMIES used for? You guessed it... building and complaining in GC and forums... oh wait.. no they arent..ARMIES are used for WAR!
So though I COMPLETELY agree that WAR isn't the ONLY part of this game and I will admit, its nice that its not the ONLY thing to do here, WAR is a BIG part of this game... the "lions share" of the sandbox... sure, argue with me if you wish. Thats fine (I most likely wont respond anyhow). But its true. What basic or advanced resource do you have that CANT be used for military?
VALAR is just roaming that area of the sandbox. Unfortunately for them, they pissed off too many others in that sandbox and now War is coming to them from multiple fronts.
DESTRUCTION of VALAR:
Does Curse want to see VALAR destroyed? NO!
Our primary goal, again, is Spirit/Roller. We want him COMPLETELY out of our areas.. no where near ANY of our cities. Pretty simple.
Once we are done with Spirit/Roller, will we help destroy all of VALAR? NO
IF the war is still going on when we are done with our primary objective, we WILL help DLords and the others that are against VALAR as long as there is a need. But I dont think ANYONE wants to see EVERY VALAR city razed and it to cease being an alliance and the players stop playing.
HARMLESS vs VALAR:
Ive seen things mentioned about H? and they being "bullies" or the "police" or however you want to describe it. I've also seen people gripe that there are 5 alliances going after VALAR now.
IF VALAR is SOOOO mistreated, put up or shut up people! If you think they are mistreated, JOIN THEM.. PUBLICLY declare it.. form confederations with them. help the "underdog" with military help. I know people are doing that behind the scenes.. which is another part of the game. But come on.. if you can cry about it in the forums, quit hiding in the shadows!
And as for Harmless? They are a good group of players that their top people have played for a long time. And they were smart and have their training alliance so they can really learn the game. Yes, they ARE big. But since everyone is so keen on looking at numbers... LOOK at them really. If people REALLY thought Harmless was a "threat" and shouldnt be "on top", get a couple of alliances together and take them on!! Not saying we ever would, but DLORDS and CURSE vs HARMLESS? (or what about VALAR and CURSE vs HARMLESS?) Hmmm... Numbers wise, either ones of those battles would put Harmless as the under-dog... then what would the cries be?
The point being: If you dont like it, DO SOMETHING about it. Dont just cry "foul" in GC and the forums... I say simply "COWGIRL UP"!
NAPS and CONFEDERATIONS:
I said I would come back to this and I am. One of my gripes since I started playing this game so long ago now, is how PEOPLE treat NAPS and CONFEDERATIONS. I know when I ran Goonies, we went with this model:
CONFEDERATION: For those close allies that we wish to support and will support us no matter what. We will only have a confederation with those that are so close, we feel we are just two arms off the same body. These are the ones that if you declare on them, you might as well declare on us too.
NAP: These are for those alliances that we are saying "we arent your ally and we arent your enemy." So to avoid possible issues, lets have a NAP so we can feel a little safer with them close, etc.
Now, I dont know officially if that is how Iduna thinks of hers in Curse. BUT... it seems to be.
For those that dont know, NAP stands for "Non Aggression Pact" This just means you wont be attacking each other. It doesnt mean you are allies. But TOO many people treat NAPs with the same level as a Confederation. This pretty much causes every alliance to be linked to every other alliance, which causes everyone else to be scared to fight.
I want to point out, that H? was VERY smart after the last "war".. the TMM campaign. They removed almost ALL their NAPs. Just because we fought together then, didn't mean we were best buds. For the VALAR war, yes, they re-established it. Basically it tells me they know how to USE NAPs and CONFEDERATIONS correctly. I hope others treat them this way.
Thank you for reading my long-winded message. Lets just play the game, quit griping and have some fun.
Oh: and VALAR: you have NOTHING to fear from CURSE (well, Spirit/Roller does) until thats done or unless you attack us.
Ok. Im done with my soapbox now and probably wont bother responding if you respond to me. :)
Remember, this is MY opinion. And even if you DONT agree with it, its still MY opinion. Your negative flames at me wont change that! :)
Oh, one final bit of info:
IT'S JUST A GAME PEOPLE!!! ITS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN!! SO, HAVE FUN!!!!
Faya
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