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Kurfist 
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Joined: 14 Apr 2011
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 Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:20 |
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I think it's hypocritical to be against troll players and trollers on the forum, then troll people that make comments that you don't agree with..
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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin
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(EOM) Harry
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Joined: 06 Oct 2010
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:30 |
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Kurfie baby, was that a comment about me?
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Fool's watch the land when the problem is in the heart.
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Kurfist
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:31 |
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If I would have made a comment about you in general I would have put your name and then a comment.
Like Harry, "text here"
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Patience is a virtue, resource giving is a sin
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StJude
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Joined: 12 Jun 2011
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Points: 568 |
Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:32 |
 Dakota Strider wrote:
StJude, I know the feeling. I have made what I have thought have been excellent points, that just get ignored by the other side, because they have no valid counter for them. They look at any hint of name calling, or any other such device and direct their attention only to that. The sad thing, usually those comments were made to try to lighten the mood a bit. At least that was my perception when I read yours.
On the bright side, it seems we are winning the argument, if not the war.
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Judging from this thread, H? is failing at their PR campaign in all of this.
Other than the aggressors going after VALAR, a lot of the smaller alliances and players are now questioning why it takes 5 alliances to fight 1 if this is all "Harmless" Fun? (CWHUTIDIDTHAR?)
I definitely have a style that is tongue in cheek, but Kumo takes things too personally and gets all bent out of shape. That said, I have no problem admitting I said certain things to get a rise out of him. Shows those following the thread that there is definitely emotion in this from H?'s side, regardless of what they say.
The PvP argument put forward by H? is clearly a ploy as far as I am concerned, and that is why neither you, I or anyone else questioning the H? will get any answers.
I'm gonna go back to seeing if I can kick some Champs ass while all this is happening.
Like Celeb and others, I like the underdog, you guys in VALAR are clearly that now. Way more fun when you actually have to think in your PvP as opposed to mindlessly zerg your opponent with an endless supply of replaceable troops.
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Createure
Postmaster General
Joined: 07 Apr 2010
Location: uk
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Points: 1191 |
Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:32 |
StJude wrote:
You seem to be using the "OH NOES, I R BEIN' TROLLED" route to avoid the direct questions. Which is alright with me, it helps reinforce the point I am making. |
Dakota Strider wrote:
I have made what I have thought have been excellent points, that just get ignored by the other side, because they have no valid counter for them.
On the bright side, it seems we are winning the argument, if not the war. |
Hey there.
Did you guys perhaps consider that no one is bothering to counter your ineffable logic not because they have no answer, but because they simply can't be bothered?
This thread is very long now - and it goes hand-in-hand with some other very long threads - none of the arguments are new, we're just going round in circles. Most people just want to get on with the war, or watching the war, and really can't be bothered with this back-and-forward anymore...
Because at the end of the day - anyone can twist anything that someone else says to further their own argument when you're using 'forum logic'.
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StJude
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:35 |
Createure wrote:
Hey there.
Did you guys perhaps consider that no one is bothering to counter your ineffable logic not because they have no answer, but because they simply can't be bothered?
This thread is very long now - and it goes hand-in-hand with some other very long threads - none of the arguments are new, we're just going round in circles. Most people just want to get on with the war, or watching the war, and really can't be bothered with this back-and-forward anymore...
Because at the end of the day - anyone can twist anything that someone else says to further their own argument when you're using 'forum logic'.
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Your Majesty,
I had in fact thought of this, but the fact that you even have to suggest this is counter enough to what you are even proposing.
If no-one cares, why did you care, to tell us that "maybe" no one cares? You seem to.
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Createure
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Joined: 07 Apr 2010
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:39 |
Createure wrote:
anyone can twist anything that someone else says to further their own argument |
See what I did there?
Honestly mate I just have your best interests at heart - I don't want you to be the last one left standing in here alone.
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StJude
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Joined: 12 Jun 2011
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:40 |
Createure wrote:
Createure wrote:
anyone can twist anything that someone else says to further their own argument |
See what I did there?
Honestly mate I just have your best interests at heart - I don't want you to be the last one left standing in here alone. |
nah man, knowing Harmless, I won't be standing in here alone, there will be 5 other dudes standing against me.
See what I did there?
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tallica
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Joined: 27 Jun 2011
Location: Seattle, WA
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Points: 378 |
Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:49 |
StJude wrote:
players are now questioning why it takes 5 alliances to fight 1
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I don't think it's an issue of 5 alliances against 1, it seems more that there are a few groups of people who feel that eliminating one group (for multiple reasons) is what everything boils down to. Why are there 5 large alliances all teaming up against one? I would say that they all want a piece of the spoils, it's no secret that VALAR is in trouble and will lose this war (unless something extreme like all of Crow comes to their rescue).
The real question is how far will this war go? Will it stop once the main VALAR leaders are taken down or will all of VALAR be vanquished? What are peace terms?
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Createure
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Posted: 27 Sep 2011 at 20:55 |
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That's the thing. There is almost no Harmless posts in this thread or the other big one.. Maybe 1 per page or less?
And every time someone does post about 5 of the same old people jump on the, this is the very reason that KP made the comment about 'keeping it brief' in the original post.
We're all old players and we've all been around Illy for quite a while, we've seen it all before with regards public forums - we just want to enjoy something a little bit different from the usual hum-drum in this sandbox and really, seriously, honestly cannot be bothered with this clever tete-a-tete that people like you seem to relish StJude.
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