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Ander 
Postmaster General
Joined: 24 Apr 2011
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Points: 1269 |
 Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 16:21 |
Well good luck for you two with that.
you don't need any courage to 'take on' someone, you need only brute force. but no amount of force can change one's opinion. For that you need to reason with the good side of people. I could be right or wrong in my convictions, but I hope for positive changes, not destruction.
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Brids17
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 1483 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 16:26 |
 Ander wrote:
I don't see how someone who helped out an old friend is 'deserving of punishment'. They are certainly less 'deserving of punishment' than those players who ganged upon peaceful players for the sin of being 'strategic assets of Valar'. |
He abandoned his alliance, joined VALAR, offloaded a ton of troops on someone, then ran away with his tail between his legs when he realized VALAR was a sinking ship and now is hiding in WE. That's just cowardly. If you're gonna stand up for a friend then do it, don't run away when you realize you've pissed someone off.
StJude wrote:
So, let me get this straight. You guys siege a player, these guys attack the siege.
Basically, they lose moving military pixels and you lose moving military pixels.
So, since you maybe lost more moving military pixels you feel you are now justified in taking cities?
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So let me get this straight, you just questioned people for getting worked up over losing pixels and now you're questioning people destroying some pixelated cities? Do you even re-read the things you post?
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StJude
Postmaster
Joined: 12 Jun 2011
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Points: 568 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 16:27 |
Kilotov of DokGthung wrote:
why shall people be ashamed if told to feel shame by a shameless person? |
The emotion is dictated by the act(s) of the perpetrator(s) and not by the reputation of the messenger.
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StJude
Postmaster
Joined: 12 Jun 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 568 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 16:28 |
Brids17 wrote:
So let me get this straight, you just questioned people for getting worked up over losing pixels and now you're questioning people destroying some pixelated cities? Do you even re-read the things you post?
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Do you have a sense of proportion?
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Celebcalen
Forum Warrior
Joined: 18 May 2011
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Points: 288 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 16:52 |
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The way that some of the so called coalition members and also their higher ranking officers are behaving is clearly causing a great deal of anger within the community.
Instead of looking at ways to usher in peace. Some of these people are deliberately hurling insults and attacks in effort to further humiliate the defeated and settle scores without justification. Having had the YES to commence war they do not want to stop and are looking for all sorts of excuses to attack people inside or outside of Valar.
I think that it is clear to all sensible players that if ALL hostilities are not stopped within the next day or two this war is going to reignite. I feel that if that happens the blame will lie with the Victors for failing to be magnanimous in victory . You may have won the war with Valar but you have just created a whole series of new enemies some of whom were previously your friends.
I fear you do not have much time. Because if this action does not stop peacefully then it will become clear to other alliances that SOME not All of the Coalition will have to be stopped militarily.
I strongly urge leaders of OTHER alliances to apply more pressure on the Coalition for an immediate cessation BUT also to prepare your armies to intervene in the name of the Community in case ...well...the rogue elements do not listen.
Lastly should the situation fail to be resolved now and the violence continue I hope that H? will maintain at least a dignified distance and not come to the aid of those hell bent on creating mayhem
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Brids17
Postmaster General
Joined: 30 Jul 2010
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 1483 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 18:00 |
StJude wrote:
Do you have a sense of proportion? |
And now suddenly pixels have value. How quickly your flawed argument falls apart...
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StJude
Postmaster
Joined: 12 Jun 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 568 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 18:22 |
Brids17 wrote:
StJude wrote:
Do you have a sense of proportion? |
And now suddenly pixels have value. How quickly your flawed argument falls apart...
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Sigh...
Let me help you get some perspective with one simple question.
Do you spend money buying prestige building your moving military pixels?
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nightfury
Greenhorn
Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 86 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 18:23 |
Brids17: He abandoned his alliance, joined VALAR, offloaded a ton of troops on someone, then ran away with his tail between his legs when he realized VALAR was a sinking ship and now is hiding in WE. That's just cowardly. If you're gonna stand up for a friend then do it, don't run away when you realize you've pissed someone off.
Completely agree with Brids there. Joining an alliance for a WAR is not an issue however running away in the middle is sad, pathetic. Staying there and facing consequence of a decision is much better. How can somebody expect that they can enter war, kill some troops and expect no attacks to come to him?
As I understand VALAR has negotiated for peace and that agreement is only for current VALAR players. Those who took part in war and are not presently in VALAR should negotiate separate agreements. Use your diplomatic skills...U know u might get away without any attacks
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nightfury
Greenhorn
Joined: 23 Jun 2011
Status: Offline
Points: 86 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 18:24 |
StJude wrote:
Brids17 wrote:
StJude wrote:
Do you have a sense of proportion? |
And now suddenly pixels have value. How quickly your flawed argument falls apart...
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Sigh...
Let me help you get some perspective with one simple question.
Do you spend money buying prestige building your moving military pixels?
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If one can buy some troops with prestige then I am sure that many will do that...
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ugofirst
New Poster
Joined: 20 Jun 2011
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Points: 11 |
Posted: 07 Oct 2011 at 18:47 |
whilst i cannot, and do not, condone the actions attributed to blue, i feel a duty to members of WE to try to negotiate a settlement which would appease all parties involved -
the loss of a city for attempting to break a siege seems very harsh - especially as the stated goal of the war, the removal of azreil, has already been accomplished
i made an offer to compensate any player who lost troops to blue with double their value. if the players who lost troops are amenable to this offer, or similar terms, then surely any further escalation can be avoided
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