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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 21:06
I can't be blamed for what your leaders fear I might do, but if I were the sort of person to return violence for insults, their warning would have been too late.  I do recall you being more than a little crude and belligerent.

It's a terrible shame if no one thought of a less cowardly reason to endorse speaking respectfully and pleasantly to one another regardless of position or power.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 21:18
Originally posted by Calico_Jack Calico_Jack wrote:

I got warned by my Alliance after i Called you names HonoredMule :P  a few months back in the improvements thread, they didnt want me to make you angry :P i didnt know who you were back then

We have nothing to fear but fear itself.  Well, almost nothing.

I have been playing Illy for about eleven months now, and one phenomenon I observe is similar to Seligman's description of learned helplessness.  In this well-known experiment, some dogs were submitted to random shocks from which they could not escape.  Others were provided a means of avoiding the shocks.  Dogs who could escape quickly learned to do so.  However, if a dog was first subjected to the condition of inescapable shocks, that dog had trouble learning to escape if the escape subsequently became available.

How does this relate to Illy?  As we have seen recently, Illy affords the opportunity for those with power to administer relatively random*, severe punishments from which there is no opportunity to escape.

Under this condition, many players have seemingly forgotten the many options they have to respond flexibly and cooperatively in similar situations.  Many seem to be resigned to their fate and mostly respond by complaining about how warlike Illy isn't or some such similar theme.

I sincerely doubt even those nefarious villains at H? ( Wink) have deliberately concocted this as a strategy intended to maintain a docile "populace."  It is rather a snapshot of a natural human response as it appears at this point in time.

At any rate, I believe it is more the exaggerated fear response in other players, rather than specific likely actions of H? or other powerful alliances that cause reactions like the one Calico Jack described.  This is one we cannot lay at the feet of H?  It's all us, as it were.

*The punishments are not entirely random, since they do relate to a predecessor action on the part of the player being punished.  However, different players might be treated differently depending on established relationships in the game, and the magnitude of the punishment is quite severe in relationship to the offense, so while this is not entirely random it is at minimum unpredictable and arbitrary, or appear so to those not involved in inventing them.  There is some logic at work, we just do not know what it is.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 21:24
Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:



Edited to add:  Since nCrow is not yet a top 20 alliance, I think we could be categorized as a "smaller" alliance, although I prefer to think of us as a "not-yet-as-big-as-we-might-be-one-day" alliance.

You are part of the Crowalition which I think most of the community recognizes as a single power block and the largest mega-alliance.

Ah, but there is significant doubt among the community at large and indeed among the Crow Federation itself about when push comes to shove who will be doing the pushing and who the shoving.

Or at least there should be, as I seek to foster this sort of doubt at every opportunity.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 21:59
Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:



Edited to add:  Since nCrow is not yet a top 20 alliance, I think we could be categorized as a "smaller" alliance, although I prefer to think of us as a "not-yet-as-big-as-we-might-be-one-day" alliance.

You are part of the Crowalition which I think most of the community recognizes as a single power block and the largest mega-alliance.

Ah, but there is significant doubt among the community at large and indeed among the Crow Federation itself about when push comes to shove who will be doing the pushing and who the shoving.

Or at least there should be, as I seek to foster this sort of doubt at every opportunity.

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We might have an infestation of crows, but a few hawks can take care of that problem. But I do not seem to recall any hawks in Illyriad. What a crying shame. :(
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 22:17
Originally posted by Quackers Quackers wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:

Originally posted by The_Dude The_Dude wrote:

Originally posted by Rill Rill wrote:



Edited to add:  Since nCrow is not yet a top 20 alliance, I think we could be categorized as a "smaller" alliance, although I prefer to think of us as a "not-yet-as-big-as-we-might-be-one-day" alliance.

You are part of the Crowalition which I think most of the community recognizes as a single power block and the largest mega-alliance.

Ah, but there is significant doubt among the community at large and indeed among the Crow Federation itself about when push comes to shove who will be doing the pushing and who the shoving.

Or at least there should be, as I seek to foster this sort of doubt at every opportunity.

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We might have an infestation of crows, but a few hawks can take care of that problem. But I do not seem to recall any hawks in Illyriad. What a crying shame. :(

If there WERE hawks, I think they'd go after the ducks first.

Just saying ...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 22:20
Well looks like us crows and ducks have to work together to keep the hawks out. :D 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 22:21

Ah where would the World be without Trolls. I have notice throughout this thread that most responses reinforce one of two positions. 1 not linking your account to your comments can generate Troll fodder. 2 a fear of reprisal for comments made in the forums is a valid reason to disassociate in game names from forum names.

I would like to address the fear of reprisal. I do not believe fear of in game reprisals for out of game (or even Global Chat) actions is a warranted concern for 2 reasons. First if unsubstantiated attacks were made against players the in game the community has already shown that is quick and fierce to quell such behavior. Secondly if larger players were really abusing their power/positions I believe the community as a whole would be powerful enough to stop them for the previously mention reason. Perhaps this last belief shows my naivety but I honestly believe it. It is for this reason that I ignored the fear of reprisal in my previous post.

I would like to add that one should consider the implications of fearing comments being associated with the speaker. I must wonder if the comment isn’t valid enough for the speaker to allow it to be associated with themselves should anyone else be concerned about it.? Perhaps it is for this reason that the right to face ones accuser is in the US constitution. It is to this point I believe Honoredmule’s comments allude.

Lastly I would like to request players refrain from H? bashing in this thread. There are already 2 threads dedicated to the recent events regarding this issue… please leave these sentiments there.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 22:24
So now its just for the forum managers to let us change our names then, i woudnt mind changing my name back to my ingame name
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 22:42
Since I forgot to stay on topic, some times it is best not to link your in game name to your forum name. Yet, on a game like this, there is really no down side. The wost you can do is make a few friends and get a few people against you. If you are here to get someone mad enough to attack you through the game, then you shouldn't be posting it in the first place.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: 12 May 2012 at 23:38
Originally posted by HonoredMule HonoredMule wrote:

 

... Speaking anonymously is closely akin to sock puppetry, not to mention indistinguishable from it ....

sock puppets rock!  they even have sock puppet porn!  
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