ETERNAL CHAMPIONS

Ector the Fury wrote: Isnt Champ just getting support from their confederations? Seems completely fair to me. Why doesnt DB just call in some of their own confederations instead of asking for ANY alliance to support them? Kinda hard to cry for help after causing so much turmoil in the past.

Hello Ector, it is good to see you here.  I am sorry that I didn't get your reply to my mail in-game, but that is the postal service for you

The first point you raise is very logical and valid - we have done so now that we are aware of a war going on that we knew nothing about.  However, as I have explained at length in previous posts, the issue is not quite as simple as that.

I did point out to you that the onset of the Champs attacks, just days after the declaration of peace with Calcr who just happened to be in a confederation with them, was more than just coincidental.  The advent of LWO joining a short time later also confirmed that suspicion. 

From where I sit, and DB member or not, I always try to look at things from all sides - there is a deliberate attempt to goad an escalation of this conflict to involve all of Crow.  In essence, you are being used - I would hope, as I said to you, unknowingly, but you are being used.

If you put the sequence together, you will see I hope, why I have reached this conclusion.  DB was in a war with Cala - half way through this when it was clear they were losing, they decided to accept a merge into Crows which they had apparently been discussing for some time.  Crows then became involved and commenced mediation backed by attacks, this lead to a NAP being agreed (we enjoy the challenge of a good fight, but we aren't crazy enough to take on the combined Crow alliances).  Before 'the ink was dry' on the NAP agreement, attacks commenced from Champs with no warning on DB members, Champs being in a confederation with Cala, latterly Calcr.  DB responded only to find Calcr supporting Champs, namely Tinuviel  -  who, let's be honest, is Calcr..

A few days later, LWO also launch attacks - who also just happen to be in confederation with Calcr and have been long since prior to the merge.

So, from that, the only conclusion that I can reach is that Calcr are continuing the war from behind the screen of Crow. 

I would like to ask you the same question I posed earlier in my posts - If you were a smaller alliance, less than half the size of your intended target alliance and you knew that alliance had a reputation for aggression, would you risk your entire alliance by attacking it without reason and without knowing you had major support in your pocket?  I don't think you would unless I have made a massive mistake in judgment of you, you aren't that daft!

Kinda hard to cry for help after causing so much turmoil in the past.

I know, as again I have already mentioned, that DB has a reputation for aggression.  That does not mean that it is actually deserved nor is it the instigator of those aggressions in the main.  DB did commence a war against TMM last November, however there were reasons for that which I am sure that others can explain far better than myself.  I can only repeat what I have already said here before - since my time with DB from Sep last year, any aggressive act has been initiated by another alliance, and DB quite rightly have responded.

So, personally speaking anyway, I do not believe that anything the alliance may have or have not done over 7 months ago is any justification for you claim there my friend.

As for the calling for help - well, that is down to our having our hands tied, a point I have also mentioned to you in my mail and here in this thread.  Once your word is given, you do not break it - just because this is a game does not allow you to ignore that.  I am very pleased to see that DB works to that principal and that is why I am with them.  So we cannot attack the source of support unless of course, as I did ask you in my in-game mail, the position of Crows is clarified to untie our hands?

 [EDIT by TC: Fixed broken formatting]